Women have it much worse but it’s the same with men’s clothes.

A “large” men’s shirt from Uniqlo is totally different from a “large” from Volcom and so on. Start making your own clothes and realize there’a a thousand dimensions to a shirt and “waistline” is barely scratching the surface.

Don’t get me started on shoes, especially if you have wide feet. Something like “wide” means totally different things. Unlike clothes, poorly fitting shoes will absolutely destroy you.

At least pants have WxL.

I’ve come to chalk up clothes sizing as a natural complexity of life.

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slopinthebag 5 hours ago | parent [-]

and then you buy two different brands of pants of the same w/l and they fit completely differently /)_-)

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laksjhdlka 5 hours ago | parent [-]

And you buy the same brand and model of pants from the same retailer and they still fit completely differently due to variation in the product. Pretty annoying, I just want to buy my Levi's 510s every couple years and get the same thing each time.

	▲	slopinthebag 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		yeah I dont buy pants without trying them on now, and usually still need to get them tailored. buying oversized shirts is fine online tho because if you get them a bit wrong in either direction its fine.