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ekipan 4 hours ago

I forget the context but the other day I also learned about Snowflake IDs [1] that are apparently used by Twitter, Discord, Instagram, and Mastodon.

Timestamp + random seems like it could be a good tradeoff to reduce the ID sizes and still get reasonable characteristics, I'm surprised the article didn't explore there (but then again "timestamps" are a lot more nebulous at universal scale I suppose). Just spitballing here but I wonder if it would be worthwhile to reclaim ten bits of the Snowflake timestamp and use the low 32 bits for a random number. Four billion IDs for each second.

There's a Tom Scott video [2] that describes Youtube video IDs as 11-digit base-64 random numbers, but I don't see any official documentation about that. At the end he says how many IDs are available but I don't think he considers collisions via the birthday paradox.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowflake_ID

[2]: https://youtu.be/gocwRvLhDf8

bricss an hour ago | parent | next [-]

There also DRUUID: https://gist.github.com/bricss/53e5babedf44bf3ab71334c15102e...

swiftcoder 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowflake_ID

Isn't this just the same scheme as version 1 UUID, except with half the bits? I guess they didn't want to dedicate 128 bits to their IDs.

drchickensalad 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That also looks like the widely used BSON ids, to anyone else interested

buzzerbetrayed 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Getting the entire universe to agree on a single clock for creating timestamps sounds absurdly difficult. Probably impossible?

ekipan 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Agreement" of time is probably nonsense, yeah. I realized after posting so I edited in the parenthetical, but as [3] notes, locality probably makes this less of a real issue.

Apparently with the birthday paradox 32 bit random IDs only allow some tens of thousands per second before collision chance passes 50%. Maybe that's acceptable?

[3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47065241

speakeron an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The temperature of the cosmic microwave background can be used as a universal clock.