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slopinthebag 2 hours ago

lately it feels like zig is attempting to speed run irrelevance. which is a shame.

gjsman-1000 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't know, everyone here seems plenty okay to tolerate worse levels of instability from Linux binaries. :)

slopinthebag 2 hours ago | parent [-]

im too much of a mac user to understand what this references :p

gjsman-1000 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Take a random Linux binary which does anything non-trivial (has a GUI, does system monitoring, etc.), try running it on a different distribution from 3 years earlier without a packaging system, and tell me how it goes.

CorrectHorseBat an hour ago | parent | next [-]

What confuses me the most is the kernel goes actually to great lengths not to break userspace, but if you rely on anything else than the kernel stuff breaks all the time, and distributions never update a released version to a newer kernel but just patch old kernels for years. So why do the kernel developers even bother?

lelanthran 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Zig is proposing the opposite problem: future versions of windows wont run even trivial zig programs from today.

I can tell you that old Linux binaries run just fine on current distros.

Looking at how many times you repeated your misunderstanding in this thread it's clear that, not only do you not understand the solution, you don't understand the problem either.

gjsman-1000 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> I can tell you that old Linux binaries run just fine on current distros.

Simple: I don't believe you. Grab this copy of Firefox from 2022, https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/96.0/releasenotes/, and run it on a modern distribution in 2026. If you fail, my point is made.

chroma_zone 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Does Debian Stable count?

The page didn't include a download link, so I found it here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/96.0/linux-x86_...

And yes, it runs perfectly fine on Debian 13.

lelanthran an hour ago | parent [-]

He doesn't understand the problem.

You aren't going to convince him because he doesn't know what the problem is.

lelanthran 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I dunno about firefox (newer crypto libs wont work) but I ran a gimp compiled in 2018 on a 2025 distro.

Why specifically FF? Software without TLS does run just fine 5 years later on 5 year newer distros.