Using only cameras is a business decision, not tech decision: will camera + NN be good enough before LIDAR+Radar+RGB+NN can scale up.

For me it looks like they will reach parity at about the same time, so camera only is not totally stupid. What's stupid is forcing robotaxi on the road before the technology is ready.

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wstrange 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Clearly they have not reached parity, as evidenced by the crash rate of Tesla.

It's far from clear that the current HW4 + sensor suite will ever be sufficient for L4.

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moralestapia 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>reach parity at about the same time

Nah, Waymo is much safer than Tesla today, while Tesla has way-mo* data to train on and much more compute capacity in their hands. They're in a dead end.

Camera-only was a massive mistake. They'll never admit to that because there's now millions of cars out there that will be perceived as defective if they do. This is the decision that will sink Tesla to the ground, you'll see. But hail Karpathy, yeah.

* Sorry, I couldn't resist.

	▲	algo_trader 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Was Karpathy "fired" from Tesla because he could not make camera only work ? Or did he "resign" since Elon insists on camera-only and Karpathy says i cant do it?