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ben_w 4 hours ago

> Absolutely everyone should be allowed to access AI models without any restraints/safety mitigations.

You recon?

Ok, so now every random lone wolf attacker can ask for help with designing and performing whatever attack with whatever DIY weapon system the AI is competent to help with.

Right now, what keeps us safe from serious threats is limited competence of both humans and AI, including for removing alignment from open models, plus any safeties in specifically ChatGPT models and how ChatGPT is synonymous with LLMs for 90% of the population.

chasd00 4 hours ago | parent [-]

from what i've been told, security through obscurity is no security at all.

ben_w 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> security through obscurity is no security at all.

Used to be true, when facing any competent attacker.

When the attacker needs an AI in order to gain the competence to unlock an AI that would help it unlock itself?

I would't say it's definitely a different case, but it certainly seems like it should be a different case.

r_lee 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

it is some form of deterrence, but it's not security you can rely on