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nubg 6 hours ago

My take away is: it's roughly as good as Opus 4.5.

Now the question is: how much faster or cheaper is it?

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Bishonen88 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

40% cheaper: https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/pricing

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amedviediev 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

But what about real price in real agentic use? For example, Opus 4.5 was more expensive per token than Sonnet 4.5, but it used a lot less tokens so final price per completed task was very close between the two, with Opus sometimes ending up cheaper

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worldsavior 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How does it work exactly? How this model is cheaper and has the same perf as Opus 4.5?

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red2awn an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Distilling from a teacher (Opus 4.5) and scaling RL more.

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anthonypasq 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

this is called progress

	▲	worldsavior 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I'm asking technically how progress works. What is actually being improved here
	▲	metaltyphoon 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Or, we can bleed out cash for a very long time.

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sxg 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How can you determine whether it's as good as Opus 4.5 within minutes of release? The quantitative metrics don't seem to mean much anymore. Noticing qualitative differences seems like it would take dozens of conversations and perhaps days to weeks of use before you can reliably determine the model's quality.

	▲	johntarter 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Just look at the testimonials at the bottom of introduction page, there are at least a dozen companies such as Replit, Cursor, and Github that have early access. Perhaps the GP is an employee of one of these companies.

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vidarh 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Given that the price remains the same as Sonnet 4.5, this is the first time I've been tempted to lower my default model choice.

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freeqaz 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If it maintains the same price (with Anthropic tends to do or undercuts themselves) then this would be 1/3rd of the price of Opus.

Edit: Yep, same price. "Pricing remains the same as Sonnet 4.5, starting at $3/$15 per million tokens."

	▲	Bishonen88 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		3 is not 1/3 of 5 tho. Opus costs $5/$25

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eleventyseven 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> That's a long document.

Probably written by LLMs, for LLMs