| ▲ | Tzela 3 hours ago |
| "women are drawn to toxic abusers" is very, very wrong. It indicates a wish/desire/need to be abused. No, they are not drawn to that. Many abusers know how to look nice and perfect and are great at manipulation.
Also, there may just be a lot of bad men in your social peer group. Don't make it sound like it's the womens fault. |
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| ▲ | lelanthran 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| > "women are drawn to toxic abusers" is very, very wrong. It indicates a wish/desire/need to be abused. It doesn't have to indicate that. I think it's more likely that those traits that those women find attractive are the same traits that toxic abusers have. > Don't make it sound like it's the womens fault. I don't think he was doing that - people can't help what traits they find attractive. |
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| ▲ | blell an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It’s called “Hybristophilia” and it’s a well-known phenomenon. |
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| ▲ | 4gotunameagain 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It's not very wrong unfortunately. Do you remember back in school that the nice, timid guys were friendzoned but the assholes always had girls after them ? There must be some evolutionary justification, but we have to live with that unfortunate reality.. |
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| ▲ | interloxia 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | A different explanation that rings true to my experience is that people are drawn to confidence rather than a desire to be abused. Toxic abusers and high school garbage are good at signalling strength despite their poor character and choices. | | |
| ▲ | 4gotunameagain an hour ago | parent [-] | | Sure, that also must be a factor. But then again remember the incredible amounts of fan mail serial killers and serial rapists get while in prison. (this is taking it to the extreme of course) It is the same like guys finding toxic sociopaths attractive, against our better judgement. |
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| ▲ | Tzela 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | No, I do not remember that because I've seen different things.
There is a lot of different things going on, like perceived confidence. This is just myth.
There is no woman out there who wants to live in fear. | | |
| ▲ | fc417fc802 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | "[ Indirectly ] drawn to X [ due to trait Y ]" is not the same as "directly desires X". You are strawmanning the other party. The OnlyFans example can be twisted in a similar manner. | |
| ▲ | rnewme 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | No one said there were. | |
| ▲ | brabel 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It’s not a myth. What convinced you that there is a myth?? Almost everyone seems to agree it’s a real thing from what I see online. I recommend you watch this video by YouTube channel @Elephantintheroom https://youtu.be/Gvj8hG2UvbA?si=qz_7aC4jYq2CBfJl Apparently it’s much worse than what we see around us. Women literally fall in love with monsters. |
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| ▲ | bloppe 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Just take off those glasses and everyone will realize you're secretly hot | | |
| ▲ | 4gotunameagain 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Oh this is not a spiteful view of the world, I've been quite lucky with my love life, thanks. | | |
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