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dyauspitr 6 hours ago

What a waste of life. Why hasn’t someone taken out Putin, is it really that hard? It can’t possibly be that hard for a state.

ars 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A state can do it, but it might fail, and the result of a failure would be a catastrophe so everyone is very cautious.

SanjayMehta 4 hours ago | parent [-]

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rngfnby 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And then you get Medvedev. His finger is so itchy for the red button he has to rub it with vagisil.

At a certain point we have to understand that Putin is about the most pro-Western person left in Russia.

GolfPopper 4 hours ago | parent [-]

>Putin is about the most pro-Western person left in Russia.

Appearing more sane than Putin while simultaneously being in a position to plausibly serve as Putin's successor is likely to be fatal.

brandonmenc 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, it is difficult to take out the leader of a world nuclear world power.

Especially one as shrewd as Putin. Especially when you're expecting the EU to do it. Not sure why this is a surprise.

The world is not an action film.

rngfnby 5 hours ago | parent [-]

This.

Never mind that they tried a month ago with the drone attacks.

How would this work exactly? The most protected person in the world, thousands of km from hostile borders, in the city with the world best AD surrounded, by bureaucrats who, if anything, think Putin is too soft on the West.

artem2471 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

That one attack where Russians released an ai generated video to prove its existence.

SanjayMehta 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And what happened? They poked the bear and it turned their electricity grid off. Something NATO would have done in the first 4 hours, not take 4 years.

kstenerud 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Putin is a symptom, not the problem.

The problem is that Russia is the one surviving major imperialist state (as in annexing land) of the four that existed in the 1930s. We defeated the other three and rebuilt their constitutions, but we didn't have the manpower or the will to do this to Russia as well.

And so, Russia continued in its imperialist tradition: Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Chechnya, Georgia, Ukraine, and next Moldova and Lithuania if they're not stopped.

The West naively believed that commerce would tame Russia, but an imperialist is never satisfied with riches and friends - only land gives them a true sense of status.

And so we must learn this painful lesson yet again.

Killing Putin would only make a temporary dent. The only way to stop this kind of beast is to destroy and rebuild like we did with Italy, Germany, and Japan.

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clot27 15 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Putin is literally creation of west, they wanted USSR to fall so desperately but didn't think about its consequences, now all the former soviet countries are killing each other and doing ethnic cleansing of different groups inside their border.

subjectsigma 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ok sure, you go try it! Just remember that even if you succeed, the consequences may be everyone you know and love dying in nuclear fire.

jesterson 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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dismalaf 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Zelenskyy could die tomorrow and Ukraine would keep fighting. Your brain's been melted by Russian propaganda.

mint5 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This post’s comments has seen a special military operation or something, it’s straight up Soviet radio in here

minihoster 5 hours ago | parent [-]

big uptick in authoritarian bootlicking in this place unfortunately

jesterson 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Zelenskyy could die tomorrow and Ukraine would keep fighting

That's your delusion and it has nothing to do with reality. Take out their army "recruiters" grabbing and beating people on streets, and there will be noone to fight anymore. No need even to take out zelenski.

> Your brain's been melted by Russian propaganda.

How predictable lol. So happy your "brain" is not melted by anything.

fhdkweig 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The Ukraine conscription age is 25. If they were desperate for soldiers it would be lowered. It was 18 for the United States in the Vietnam war. Definitely wouldn't be grabbing people off the streets.

somenameforme 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The US was a large country with normal demographics in the era of Vietnam, fighting a war with low deaths - less than 60k over ~10 years of fighting. Ukraine is a fraction of the size of the US, was already in a major demographic crisis before the war started, and is fighting a war where they are suffering high death rates.

This [1] is a population of pyramid from Ukraine 2 years ago. It's going to look dramatically worse now. They simply don't have many people below the age of 25. And you shouldn't just view those people as fodder. That is essentially the future of Ukraine. Send them off to die and you literally and figuratively send the future of Ukraine off to die.

So the two wars aren't especially comparable at all.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukraine2024.jpg

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jmye 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Take out their army "recruiters" grabbing and beating people on streets

He says, and then unironically whines about being called propaganda.

somenameforme 4 hours ago | parent [-]

The extreme brutality of Ukrainian press gangs is well documented, including repeated incidents of them beating people to death. Even Wiki lists a bunch of incidents [1] which should obviously be considered a very small sampling.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_Center_of_Recruitm...

rngfnby 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Who walked away from the Istanbul offer and killed their negotiating team? There's no better outcome for Ukraine than that offer, plus a million dead.

Thank you Boris Johnson.

SanjayMehta 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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technate4eva 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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wonderwonder 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You think the war ends if they kill Putin? Medvedev would very likely nuke Kiev 30 minutes later.

dyauspitr 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I seriously doubt it. You have to be absolutely bonkers to start nuclear war over one person. Russia is insane but not suicidal.

hyperman1 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Franz Ferdinand proves we are this bonkers.