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lukeigel 4 hours ago

Jmail maintainer and co-creator here. Very excited to see that someone finally made Jemini good!

Our development process has been interesting. Although just Riley and I first made Jmail, it's been really gratifying to see companies, journalists, and fellow developers like Diego rise to the occasion to make this entire suite of apps as high quality and extensive as possible.

embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Jmail maintainer and co-creator here.

Great, I've been looking to be able to contact you somewhere, hardly a better place :) Thanks for sharing the project btw, and for keeping jmail alive, been useful to dig into some stuff.

However, there seems to be some "injected" or "fake" emails, that I cannot figure out why they're there in the first place. For example this one: https://jmail.world/thread/55b91b46ef1e4487bee131a8505e14a4?...

For that example, the first problem is that there is no link to the source file from the disclosed files, which is strange, because most other emails have that. Secondly, this almost seems to be a "sponsored" email or something, as it has an ad in the top right corner reading "Sponsored by Drop Site News", but clicking that just takes you to some general page, with no clear information how that's related to the fake/injected email. Also, what does "Verified by X" actually mean, did they verify the authenticity of that specific email?

There seems to be a bunch of people confused by those emails and wondering where they are coming from, because it's missing the source link like the others, so there doesn't seem to be a good way to verify those emails. Could you maybe share a bit about what's going on?

lukeigel 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, those are mailing lists that people signed him up for after he died, including with a joke name.

He was a very famous figure in August 2019, and normal people spammed his inbox with emails like the below

https://jmail.world/thread/4accfb5f3ed84656e9762740081a4579?...

These are all real emails! We can do a better job making this clear to the user.

embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> These are all real emails!

Why do the rest of the emails provide a link to the online file (original one hosted at justice.gov) but the "sponsored"/ad ones do not?

This for example: https://jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_016203?view=inbox

Has a "View Original Document" which takes you to kind-of-the-source (ideally should have been link to justice.gov but better than nothing I suppose), but for the emails with the Dropsite ad, it seems there is no original document?

lukeigel 3 hours ago | parent [-]

https://jmail.world/thread/07ff1467c0f2bb976664ecafc5829aa4?...

Many Yahoo emails do show you the original source, and the original is just an EML file. These were files directly exported from Epstein's Yahoo account. Bloomberg used these EMLs to confirm that the Yahoo emails are real (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-09-12/epstei...).

We don't tamper with these EMLs, so we currently don't make the EML accessible if the team had to redact any contents of that email.

See this for example.

https://jmail.world/thread/97d4a52d1df3948368770068262d2aab?...

We can fix examples where there are no redactions yet no EML download is available

lukeigel 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Also, that says "Verified by Drop Site News", not Sponsored by. That's because Drop Site redacted these real Yahoo emails and gave them to Jmail. The original Yahoo dataset, which the DOJ and House Oversight Committee did not release, is stewarded by DDoSecrets (https://ddosecrets.org/article/epstein-emails).

This Yahoo dataset, which we helped release after launching the first Jmail, also proved Epstein's connection to Iran-Contra (!!). Now immortalized on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Financial_trou...)

3rodents 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s just a campaign email with “Pedophiles” as the recipient name, right? Anyone can sign an email address up to a mailing list. All of Trump’s campaign emails are these type of overly friendly weird junk.

embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure, but the email itself doesn't seem to be a part of the archives of Epstein's emails (which would be an issue), it seems like it has been added manually by the admins of Jmail, as it's not coming from the files that were recently released.

3rodents 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Jmail is a mix of sources.

“The Jmail Suite is an interactive archive of Jeffrey Epstein's emails, documents, photos, and more. Data compiled from the House Oversight Committee, Department of Justice, and DDoSecrets releases”

If I understand correctly, the emails you’re looking at are from a leak that is only accessible to journalists — so Drop Site News (as journalists) have access and have published some.

https://ddosecrets.org/article/epstein-emails

lukeigel 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Correct. https://jmail.world/about explains it all.

wiseleo 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Monumental and amazing work. Thank you!

aizk 41 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

You guys are going to get a pultizer in journalism at this rate keep it up.