Telegram is almost on the opposite end of the spectrum of Matrix & Signal so I wouldn’t really consider it an alternative.

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Klonoar 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Their text explicitly acknowledges and waives away the security concerns for themselves.

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pavel_lishin an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How so? I genuinely don't know, despite casually using both.

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zadikian an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Opposite end in terms of security. Telegram group chats have no E2EE, private messages aren't E2EE by default (you have to initiate it as a "secret" chat), and the encryption itself is home rolled.

	▲	Insanity an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Yup exactly, their home rolled encryption is problematic in and of itself, but the fact that it lacks E2EE means you shouldn’t even trust it in the first place.

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mogoh 17 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It also contains scam advertisement by now.

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justsomehnguy an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It,s quite clear what you never used it. UX wise it's one of the best clients and probably in the top 3 network-wise.

	▲	katdork an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It's deeply insecure in most of the ways it is used.
	▲	Insanity 36 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I should have been clearer in my initial post, but I was referring to the security issues with telegram rather than the UI.