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| ▲ | reliabilityguy 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Why? Immigrants cannot commit crimes? This kind of logic does more disservice than people realize. You can combat bigotry towards immigrants (issue #1), without covering up for criminal immigrants (issue #2) in fear of increase of issue #1 among the natives. It only brings up more resentment and bigotry. |
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| ▲ | notahacker 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You can also insinuate that decisions completely unrelated to immigrants (issue #3) are a coverup to "protect immigrants" in order to use the popularity of bigotry towards immigrants (issue #1) to make the issue salient to bigots that have literally no interest in the rights or wrongs of third party court databases, which anyone with the slightest level of political understanding can see is going on here. | | |
| ▲ | reliabilityguy 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > make the issue salient to bigots that have That’s why the government should be transparent. |
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| ▲ | pjc50 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Crimes are committed by individuals. "Immigrants" is a group. Prosecution of sexual assault is often handled extremely badly. It needs to be done better, without fear or favor, including people who are friends with the police or in positions of power. As we're seeing the fallout of the Epstein files. | | |
| ▲ | blell 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Immigration policy is one of the most important things people vote for in an election. We need transparent crime data so we can make an informed vote. | | |
| ▲ | Steve16384 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Imho it's only "important" because the media make such a big thing of migrants being the cause of all our ills. |
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| ▲ | reliabilityguy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Crimes are committed by individuals. "Immigrants" is a group. Great. How does it change the substance of my comment? Perhaps, instead of arguing about whether “immigrants” is always a group as a collective, or a certain number of individuals acting together, you would focus on the high level implications of government’s action or inaction? What do Epstein files have to do with anything right now? Stop shifting the goal posts. | |
| ▲ | gib444 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Oh, it's "nothing to see here" bingo time?: - Policing language to distract from the topic. - Trying to claim things are just a series of isolated incidents with absolutely nothing in common - Claiming there are wider problems (that should be addressed in a manner that would take years and isn't even defined well enough to claim measure as being "better") |
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| ▲ | 9x39 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Actually that’s what data and the preponderance of victims allege: an intersection of immigration and policing which interlocked to systematically deprioritize the investigation into abuse of working-class white girls by an over represented ethnic group. In the local data that the audit examined from three police forces, they identified clear evidence of “over-representation among suspects of Asian and Pakistani-heritage men”. It’s unfortunate to watch people and entire countries twist themselves in logic pretzels to avoid ever suggesting that immigration has no ills, and we’re just being polite here about it. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/17/what-is-the-casey-r... https://celina101.substack.com/p/the-uks-rape-gang-inquiry |
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| ▲ | krona an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This database exposed half a million weekend cases which were heard with zero press notification. Many grooming gang trials were heard this way. The database is being deleted weeks before the national inquiry into the grooming gang cover up begins, and the official reason for deleting the data is nonsensical. |
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| ▲ | carlosjobim 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Can you explain your reasoning? Horrible crimes committed by foreign men against native children were covered up for political reasons in the UK. This is common knowledge. |
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| ▲ | pjc50 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | In the case of Rotherham, I believe that most of those committing the crimes were not foreign; most were British born British nationals. Ethnicity is not the same as immigration status. | | |
| ▲ | gib444 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Congratulations, you've corrected us on the usage of the word immigrant. Now can we return to the topic? Whilst we're on Rotherham: "...by men predominantly of Pakistani heritage" [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-61868863 Their parents or grandparents were immigrants... | | |
| ▲ | roryirvine 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The topic was crimes committed by "foreign men", and your link refers to crimes committed by non-immigrants. So it would seem that you're the one straying from the topic. |
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| ▲ | 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [deleted] | |
| ▲ | carlosjobim 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The question is: Would the crimes have been covered up by authorities if the predators were ethnically English and the victims were children of foreigners? | | |
| ▲ | notahacker 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Anyone who's actually paid any attention to the many documented failings of the child protection services in those cases knows the answer to that question is "yes". | | |
| ▲ | dash2 17 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The problem with that argument is that, IIRC, there is direct evidence that one reasons that the abuse was covered up was that authorities were afraid of being accused of racism and/or of stirring up ethnic tensions. I don't think that, to accept this, you need believe that CPS is always perfect when this issue is absent. |
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| ▲ | gulfofamerica 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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