| ▲ | deadeye 6 hours ago |
| Openclaw did what no major model producer would do. Release insanly insecure software that can do whatever it wants on your machine. If openai had done it themselves, immediate backlash. |
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| ▲ | madihaa 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Major producers like OpenAI optimize for safety and brand reputation avoiding backlash. Open source projects optimize for raw capability and friction less experimentation. It is risky yes, but it allows for rapid innovation that strictly aligned models can't offer. |
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| ▲ | lvl155 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Is it? You basically got 95% of the way there with Claude Code inside of a container. People were using CC outside of development scope for awhile. |
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| ▲ | Aurornis 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > You basically got 95% of the way there with Claude Code inside of a container. OpenClaw and Claude Code aren't solving the same problems. OpenClaw was about having a sandbox, connecting it to a messenger channel, and letting it run wild with tools you gave it. | | |
| ▲ | koolala 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | A messenger and ssh'ing into Claude Code from your phone aren't that much different. | | |
| ▲ | theturtletalks 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The real magic is heartbeat which is essentially cron on steroids. The real difference between running Claude Code in the terminal and OpenClaw is that the agent is actually intuitive and self-driven. People would wake up to their agent having built something cool the night before or automate their workflow without even asking for it. | |
| ▲ | Aurornis 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I’m not an OpenClaw user but it’s obvious that OpenClaw was very different than that. OpenClaw was about having the agent operate autonomously, including initiating its own actions and deciding what to do. Claude Code was about waiting for instructions and presenting results. “Just SSH into Claude Code” is like the famous HN comment that didn’t understand why anyone was interested in DropBox because you could do backups with shell scripts. |
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| ▲ | lvl155 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That’s what CC does…I don’t need a messenger wrapper to do those things. |
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