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illichosky 6 hours ago

The guy already sold his previous company for a shitload of money. Got bored and did a side project that stirred the Internet on the past month. That is way more than most people here are going to accomplish in a lifetime. Yet, he has some deal with OpenAI to work on whatever he things exciting. I don't see why so much negative comments here other than jelously

blueaquilae 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

True but between the lines I read some interesting points here. Great it get the gold nugget but I found it curious how he dunked on the JVM after all the clones emerges with much more perfs and much less code/energy consumpution.

erichocean 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you have a link to any of the JVM clones? Perplexity and Google came up empty.

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yieldcrv 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For further context, he has like 60 projects for general use during this “got bored” phase

Its just happened that this one latched on a trend well and went viral, cease and desist from its name accelerated the virality

johnwheeler 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just dislike Sam Altman, and I think he's just using this as a marketing ploy, which is more dishonesty from him. People keep saying OpenClaw is hype. I installed it, but I never tried to run it, and I don't know what the compelling reason is to. Supposedly you can talk to your agent from your iMessage? Who cares? Why not just talk to Claude Code?

hadlock 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The big draw of open claw is the memory architecture. Because you effectively start from scratch every time you open a new claude chat. Open Claw on the other hand, it compacts regularly, but also generates daily digests, and uses vector search, and then uses thoughtful memory retrieval techniques to add relevant context to your queries. Recent things get weighted more heavily, but full text search of all chats is still possible, and this is all managed automatically. Plus it uses markdown so the barrier to entry for manually auditing/modifying memories etc is very very low. If you say "can you check if my solar panel for my power generator arrive yet?" it is going to probably know what I'm talking about and go check my email for delivery notifications, based on conversations I've had with it about buying, ordering the solar panel etc. Claude is just going to ask clarifying questions since it has no idea what I am referencing.

noelsusman 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I can just look at my front porch to see if there's a solar panel there, or failing that I can click a single button on my phone and search "solar" on my gmail and find out where my solar panel is. Having an agent do that for me saves me like... 5 seconds?

johnwheeler 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So it sounds like you get extra memory at the expense of having to compact more because, of course all those things are going to take up context. But since you’re not interacting with it in some kind of turn based fashion it makes it worth it— the lack of context doesn’t matter. Is that correct?

hadlock an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah it's basically just a smart compaction and retrieval algorithm, blended with vector search of uncompacted memories. The algorithm is open source, but the technology behind securing the agent against 1-shot prompt injection will not be.

illichosky 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I also not a Sam's fan for the same reason. But if he offered me a big check to work whatever project I wanted, I would not care about it being a "marketing ploy".

Regarding openclaw's hype, it is not about how you access it, but rather what the agents can access from you, and no one did that before. Probably because no one had the balls to put in the wild such unsecure piece of software

johnwheeler 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Agreed

tastyface 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

OpenAI execs are funneling funds directly to the Trump regime and partying with the far right: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46933071

Anyone working for OpenAI is complicit with these abuses. I hope that in due time having OpenAI on your resume will be a strong negative signal.

illichosky 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Just look all the people at Trump's inauguration. The whole US economical elite is supporting it...