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senko 6 hours ago

I don't know the answer, but considering Meta (known for 100m+ offers) was in the rumors, and he mentions multiple labs (and many investors), and all the hype around openclaw ... I can easily see 9 figure, and would not be surprised by 1b+ "signing bonus", perhaps in the equivalent number of OpenAI shares.

mjr00 6 hours ago | parent [-]

... Why would they pay 9 figures? It's not like Openclaw required specialized PhD-level knowledge held by <1000 people in the world to build, and that's what Meta and the other AI labs are paying ludicrous salaries for. Openclaw is a cool project and demonstrates good product design in the AI world, but by no means is a great product manager worth 1 billion dollars.

senko 6 hours ago | parent [-]

1) there is only one OpenClaw and only one Peter;

2) at least half of the money is to not read the headlines tomorrow that the hottest AI thing since ChatGPT joined Anthropic or Google

3) the top paid people in this world are not phds

4) OpenAI is not beneath paying ludicrous amounts (see all their investments in the past year)

5) if a perception of their value as a result of this "strategic move" rises even by 0.2% and the bonus is in openai stock, it's free.

need I continue?

mjr00 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> 1) there is only one OpenClaw and only one Peter;

Again, Peter is a good/great AI product manager but I don't see any distinguishing skills worth a billion dollars there. There's only one Openclaw but it's also been a few weeks since it came into existence? Openclaw clones will exist soon enough, and the community is WAY too small to be worth anything (unlike, say, Instagram/Whatsapp before being acquired by Facebook)

> 2) at least half of the money is to not read the headlines tomorrow that the hottest AI thing since ChatGPT joined Anthropic or Google

True, but not worth $100 million dollars - $1 billion dollars

> 3) the top paid people in this world are not phds

The people getting massive compensation offers from AI companies are all AI-adjacent PhDs or people with otherwise rare and specialized knowledge. This is unrelated to people who have massive compensation due to being at AI companies early. And if we're talking about the world in general, yes the best thing to do to be rich is own real estate and assets and extract rent, but that has nothing to do with this compensation offer

> 4) OpenAI is not beneath paying ludicrous amounts (see all their investments in the past year)

Investments have a probable ROI, what's the ROI on a product manager?

> 5) if a perception of their value as a result of this "strategic move" rises even by 0.2% and the bonus is in openai stock, it's free.

99.999999% of the world has not heard of Openclaw, it's extremely niche right now.

fragmede 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Math is fun!

There are roughly 8.1 billion humans, so 99.999999% (8 nines) of the world is 81 people. There were way more than 81 people at the OpenClaw hackathon at the Frontier Tower in San Francisco, so at least that much of humanity has heard of OpenClaw. If we guess 810 people know about OpenClaw, then it means that 99.99999% (7 nines) of humanity have not heard of OpenClaw.

If we take it down to 6 nines, then that's roughly 8,100 people having heard of OpenClaw, and that 99.9999% of humanity has not.

So I think you're wrong when you say "99.999999% of the world has not heard of Openclaw". I'd guess it's probably around 99.9999% to 99.9999999% that hasn't heard of it. Definitely not 99.999999% though.

senko 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

To preface, I don't claim he will absolutely get that much money - but I wouldn't be surprised.

On the topic of brand recognition, 0.000001% of the world is 80 people (give or take). OpenClaw has ~200k GitHub stars right now.

On a more serious note, the world doesn't matter: the investors, big tech ceos, analysts do. Cloudflare stock jumped 10% due to Clawdbot.

Hype is weird. AI hype, doubly so. And OpenAI are masters at playing the game.

what 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Why would cloudflare stock jump due to clawdbot?

smnplk 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

please do continue. I like your points.