His voice doesn't sound that distinctive to me. He's going to have a hard time unless he can find some emails that say, use David Green's voice.

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dehrmann 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think a lot of sport announcers sound the same. There might just be classes of voices where you expect a faceless voice in some scenario to sound a certain way.

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ghaff 5 hours ago | parent [-]

In general, without any context, I doubt there are a lot of people you'd immediately recognize by their voice. When I was podcasting (and editing) there were certainly some people I would recognize but in general not so much.

	▲	crazygringo 3 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I don't think I have a particularly distinctive voice. But I once asked a question at a Q&A with a famous actor, the whole event went up on YouTube, but only the stage was on-camera, not the people in the Q&A line. Three years later, a friend of mine messages me "WAS THAT YOU asking a question about x to actor y at event z?" She'd randomly come across it on YouTube. Yup, it was. Blew me away.
	▲	georgemcbay 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> I doubt there are a lot of people you'd immediately recognize by their voice. There is a lot of variability on this from person to person. A lot of people are terrible at recognizing voices out of context. I have always been able to recognize people's voices just about as easily as their faces. (Unfortunately, while this is a neat parlor trick, I haven't found it to be a particularly valuable skill).

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fhub 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He'll likely file in California or Federal and ask for Jury trial. I think a Jury will be sympathetic. I doubt Google will want this to go to a jury trial - not worth the risk, further news cycles of negative PR and impact on staff morale. NPR is credible and liked.

	▲	apparent 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Greene’s lawsuit, filed last month in Santa Clara County Superior Court, alleges but does not offer proof that Google trained NotebookLM on his voice.

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reaperducer 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

His voice doesn't sound that distinctive to me.

It doesn't matter whether it sounds distinctive to you. What matters is whether it's close enough to the real person's voice to be an infringement.

Just like it doesn't matter if you used a machine to duplicate a painting. It's still an infringement.

You can't publish a Harry Potter novel and then throw up your hands and say, "It wasn't me. The AI decided to name the characters Hargid and Hermione and Snape."

Google says it paid a voice actor. If it provides proof of that, good. But like with a lot of AI things, we're in new territory here.

Seems like there's a market for a tool that can compare an AI voice to a library of known famous voices so that companies like Google can tweak their machines to not sound too much like someone who can be harmed by a sound-alike.

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nerdsniper 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> What matters is whether it's close enough to the real person's voice to be an infringement.

Also not sufficient. There has to be some evidence they attempted to copy the voice rather than just found one that was eerily similar.

This comes up from time to time without AI either. Like its not good if a firm goes out to find someone with a voice similar to a famous person / voice actor…but its fine if they just randomly find one that sounds exactly the same and they say “oooh lets go with this one” and not “oooh perfect this sounds just like Dan LaFontaine!”

	▲	dehrmann 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		All sorts of movie trailers used Don LaFontaine knockoffs.