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bigyabai 4 hours ago

> So now everyone is just being warrantlessly surveiled???

It's been like that for a while; I don't think either side of America's political aisle has the heart to extricate themselves of such a privilege.

hinata08 4 hours ago | parent [-]

correct

PBS's _spying on the homefront_ piece from 2007 already described this very kind of omniscient private database.

The government itself isn't constitutionally allowed to build or run anything of the kind, but it can commission friends in the private sector to do one and query it with little to no oversight

I am definitely not uploading my face and ID on Discord or any site

sneak 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Your bank and mobile data carrier and cable company already did for you, on your behalf. It’s all searchable via your phone number, which you have to provide to all the apps you DO sign up for, so they can easily query your name, photo, address, purchase history, etc.

pylua 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How is it guaranteed to be the same accuracy of data that is not retrieved through a warrant ?

pavel_lishin 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It just needs to be accurate-enough to eventually get a warrant.

hinata08 3 hours ago | parent [-]

you don't need warrants to query these databases

They went from warrant, to FISA, to just write a request about a name, to more or less describe a vague group of ppl on whom you want the data

You should watch this show. It's available online and pretty informative.

If things weren't bad enough in 2007, things that have changed since then are most notably the cloud act that was created, Ring that started to "backup" your home CCTV in the cloud, then also Ring that enabled so called "Search Parties" and made a superball ad about it

pavel_lishin 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Right, I understand they don't need a warrant for the databases. I'm saying that they use the databases to get enough data for a warrant that they wouldn't be able to get without the databases.

greedo 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Parallel construction. They get enough data, legal or not, to know who to look for. Then they surveil you until you slip.