| ▲ | kwanbix 5 hours ago |
| Maybe donate it to poor countries? When I used to work for the biggest ecommerce in europe, we had various stages for clothes. The last stage was selling the clothes by kilo to companies. |
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| ▲ | jjkaczor 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| That has already been happening for decades - and it isn't the "net benefit" most think it is - here is just one example - but there are dozens of similar articles that can be found: https://www.udet.org/post/the-hidden-cost-of-generosity-how-... |
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| ▲ | WalterBright 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Imported secondhand clothing is sold at prices that local textile producers cannot compete with. As a result, local garment industries collapse, unable to survive against the flood of cheap imports. Hence, jobs are lost in manufacturing and design, stifling innovation and economic growth.What was intended as charity often becomes a form of economic sabotage. Isn't that another version of the Broken Window Fallacy? Destroying things to create jobs re-creating them is a net loss. | | |
| ▲ | xp84 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Well, it's pretty hard to generalize that to the entire globe, or universe. Imagine if an alien race started landing thousands of crates on Earth full of cars, computers, clothes, etc. Every day for 30 years the crates come, all of it's free. Several dynamics can arise: 1. The elites grab the crates and hoard them, leveraging their existing power to make sure they enrich themselves and extend their power. They sell the items, but at a lower price than the Earthly-produced items, which is easy since they have 100% margin. 2. Whether or not #1 happens, it becomes impractical to make any of these goods for a living, so people stop. Eventually, the factories are dismantled or simply crumble. Now Earth is dependent on the aliens to keep sending the crates. If the aliens ever get wiped out, or just elect a populist who doesn't like to give aid to inferior planets, then we won't have any cars, or clothes, or computers. | | |
| ▲ | jjkaczor 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | We don't even need to bring aliens into this scenario - as this is the direction we are already heading towards with fully automated manufacturing and AI replacing vast sectors of human labour... (And yeah, I get it - no one "really" wants to work on a "soul-crushing" assembly/production-line... People want to make art (or games) or write novels... (both areas of creative work which are ALSO being targeted by AI)... but people definitely want to "eat" and have shelter and our whole system is built on having to pay for those priviledges...) | |
| ▲ | WalterBright 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Or people do other things. Around 1800, 95% of people worked on the farm. Today it is 2%. People do different things now. |
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| ▲ | ragall 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Whether or not is a net loss for the planet as a whole is irrelevant. Africa countries need jobs to sustain a middle class so they no longer accept donations of clothes. | | | |
| ▲ | em-bee 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | this is not destroying things to create jobs. this is about globalization negatively affecting local culture. clothing especially represents culture. if people can not afford to create their own clothes then that has a negative effect on their culture as a whole. | | |
| ▲ | WalterBright 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't see how localized culture clothing styles would be destroyed by importing different styles from other countries. | | |
| ▲ | em-bee 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | nobody buys the local style because it is more expensive than the imported stuff. as a result the local style dies out, or it doesn't get a chance to be developed in the first place. |
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| ▲ | subscribed 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don't think these companies want the poor people to wear their brand. They'll find another way to destroy them. 2018 article reports that Burberry destroyed £28 millions worth of clothes to keep their brand "exclusive": https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44885983 |
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| ▲ | pySSK 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The intended effect of the law is that they get better at planning. It requires supply chain innovation similar to what happened in the automotive industry decades ago with JIT manufacturing. They can borrow from fast-fashion but now there’s a penalty for over producing. |
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| ▲ | docflabby 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Most clothes are manufactured in countries with cheaper labor costs to cut costs - the reality is clothes are cheap to make in terms of raw materials- and dumping unwanted clothes will just destory the local economy |
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| ▲ | smt88 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Poor countries don't need clothes. They have clothes. It's just more (mostly plastic pollution) that fills their landfills and rivers. https://atmos.earth/art-and-culture/the-messy-truth/ |
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| ▲ | kube-system 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Just because a country has clothing in it doesn’t mean all of the people in that country have clothing. There are people in rich countries that need clothes. Clothing wears out, it’s a perpetual need and perpetually disposed. | | |
| ▲ | philipallstar 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The world makes clothes incredibly cheaply. Any country can solve this problem if it wants to. It doesn't need silly fashion clothes shipped from America to do so. | | |
| ▲ | kube-system 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Absolutely poverty is just a distribution problem. But ultimately somebody has to step up to do the distribution to solve it. It doesn’t really matter who. But given that the problem still exists, there’s not enough people stepping up in the right places. |
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| ▲ | smt88 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What country has a clothing shortage? Be specific. The most desperate povert I've ever seen was in India. You know what people were using to make tents to live in? Clothes. Poor people have been making clothes for thousands of years without any help from heavy industry, and it's incredibly cheap to produce long-lasting cotton clothing. Clothing isn't really a perpetual need the way you frame it. A single garment can last decades if it's synthetic or allowed to fully dry between uses. |
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