Pocketblue – Fedora Atomic for mobile devices

This is a really cool project, and IMHO the most important new-comer in the #MobileLinux distro space in a long time, as it takes a model proven on desktop, building upon a well-run distribution (Fedora) and applies it to mobile.

I have yet to attempt daily-driving it, but just trying it and easily switching mobile shells (e.g., from Plasma Mobile to Phosh) so easily[0] without have weird side-effects from the previous environment has been quite exciting!

[0]: https://pocketblue.github.io/devices/oneplus-sdm845/#images-...

	▲	nikodunk 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Updating without worries has made it much more daily-drivable for me on a Oneplus 6 (ie. it has rollbacks and image-based updates), despite being so new. It's fun that image-based OSs - which were arguably popularlized by phones - are now coming back to phones on the Linux side too.

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nikodunk 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is based on bootc (bootable containers), so note that the OS build is described in a normal Dockerfile: https://github.com/pocketblue/pocketblue/blob/main/Container... which is then run by the Github action (or locally).

Very similar to how Universal Blue, Bazzite, Bluefin etc. build at https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite (see their Containerfile), but for mobile.

Has a similar mission to https://postmarketos.org, but with a different build system AFAICT

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bastawhiz an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It doesn't look like there's anything in the way of information posted that includes screenshots or what apps are included or available? Am I missing the link?

	▲	nikodunk 21 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		It's a new-ish project FYI. But to answer your questions: - Apps: It's Linux (like desktop or server), but "image-based" so you install apps in containers like iOS or Android do (and therefore OS updates basically-never break). https://flathub.org is generally the main app store for Linux containerized phone apps. - Screenshots: It'll look the same as other Linux-on-phones, so like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostmarketOS for instance. It's just built differently.

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HardwareLust 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Very cool project, just wish it was a available on a wider range of devices. Hopefully someday!

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esperent 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Supported devices:

Xiaomi pad 5/6

Oneplus 6/6T

... That's it.

Does anyone know if there's plans for more? Is this project in very early stages, or is it going to be another Graphene OS with an extremely limited device support?

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onesaladleaf an hour ago | parent | next [-]

There's also Poco F1, we just haven't released it yet, and I am yet to add it to the docs (we'll have a single common image for both op6(t) and beryllium soon)

There's also a person working on a Fairphone 5 support and I think someone was going to work on a PinePhone port

Contributions are always welome, we need more devices!

	▲	esperent 20 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		No shade meant by the way, I fully understand how difficult it must be to support devices. Good luck!

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mrsssnake 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

GrapheneOS has such low count of devices due to strict support for security features reasons.

These projects (Linux on mobile) are even more limited due to very poor support from the manufacturer for anything more than OEM and device specific build of Android, with lack of standards in mobile platforms. Every device support is reverse engineering effort. See https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices for the status of this effort.

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pengaru 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

how does something like this not support pinephone and librem5 from day 1?

	▲	onesaladleaf an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Its just that none of the maintainers has a pinephone Though it would probably be trivial to just copy what the non-atomic Fedora Mobility does for pinephones, I might as well do this in the future and just ask someone with a pinephone to test
	▲	nikodunk 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I'm sure PRs would be welcomed if you have those devices to test on.