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tsunamifury 7 hours ago

I can say from direct experience Apple is not any better and at times much worse as they actively lie about their security measures by obscuring loopholes left open for direct government access as well as they cooperate with little to no push back.

acdha 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you have any details about those loopholes? It seems like a potentially big story.

tsunamifury 4 hours ago | parent [-]

iCloud loophole, push notification loophole, RCS loophole, business messaging loophole. These are just the semi public ones.

No one cares.

acdha an hour ago | parent [-]

Those aren’t loopholes and are widely known? I mean, they have an entire E2EE iCloud feature giving customers a choice between security and convenience:

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/108756

RCS has never offered that security guarantee at the protocol level. Google has deployed a proprietary encryption layer on top but refuses to allow other clients access. This was rather famously part of the blue/green message divide which was in the news for years.

Similarly push notifications have had privacy recommendations for ages - that’s why apps like Signal give users the option to choose their level of risk exposure.