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mvdtnz 7 hours ago

Not sure why you're being down voted but the answer is yes, it is the same Peter Thiel who gives lectures on Greta Thunberg being the literal anti-christ and if the down voters think you might be exaggerating or misleading them I encourage them to search this up.

Edit - I searched to refresh myself, ok he didn't say she was the literal antichrist. He said she's literally a legionnaire for the literal antichrist. I cannot stress enough that he was very clear that he was not using these terms figuratively, I mean "literal" in the literal sense of the term.

stavros 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, he definitely has gone off the rails lately with all the talk about the antichrist being a literal existing being with emissaries on earth. I haven't been watching his stuff but the little I've seen was unhinged.

jacquesm 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Thiel lost the plot long ago, just like his PayPal buddy did. The money went to their heads.

300 years into the future some historian will publish a book: "The downfall of the USA traced back to the PayPal Mafia".

metalman 4 hours ago | parent [-]

for which Gretta is the litteral, antidote, as she has NO money, or such vanishingly small personal funds as to be of no account, yet hiches rides on sailboats to show up and berate parliments in there well worn lairs, her speach to the british parliment bieng a clear sign that she wont back down , and much worse, has such impecable manners that she mistook there talking and joking to be a technical mallfunction with her microphone. And now after her capture by the ZGF (zionist genocide force), and stare down with there chief torturer/jailer, she has vanished from all major media. So that Gretta and that Peter, are in fact polar oposites in almost every sense.

dgxyz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This almost as bonkers as Thiel. Just the other way around.

Truths are always somewhere in the middle.

foldr 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I don’t have a strong opinion on Thunberg herself, but no, truths aren’t always in the middle. Thiel is clearly a complete fruitcake, so it does not make sense to triangulate based on any position that he holds.

dgxyz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh completely. I think you missed my point. Divisive narratives are almost entirely always wrong. The truth generally sits way away from the fruitcakes somewhere in the middle.

The problem these days is we give fruitcakes a stage. Or they buy one.

foldr 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Right, but if you are using Thiel as a point of reference, you’re going to find a midpoint between sanity and insanity, which isn’t the truth. Say what you will about Thunberg, but she is not insane in the way that Thiel is.

dgxyz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

She's not exactly what or who she purports to be. Definitely not the antichrist however. But if we want to fix this shithole of a planet we should stop listening to both of them.

foldr 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Again, you're suggesting an equivalence between someone who has strong views and someone who's simply disconnected from reality. Thunberg is right to be concerned about the environment. You could argue that she's too concerned (maybe). Thiel is not right to be worried about the antichrist and Armageddon.

We don't need to find some kind of mythical middle ground between people who are too worried about the antichrist and people who aren't sufficiently worried about the antichrist. Rather, we should just set eschatological eccentrics aside when it comes to orienting our political outlook.

dgxyz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s not the environmental campaigning that’s the issue. I am very much aligned with that. In fact I’ve done a fair bit of that myself and you’ll occasionally find me at demonstrations. I think most people are well aligned with that.

It’s the deep dive into geopolitics which is now being used to discredit her that is the problem. There’s things you don’t touch with a pole and she’s been all over them. That’s why the media have shut up about her. There isn’t universal support or consensus there. She did a lot of damage to the environmental cause getting involved.

That makes her a pariah on all causes.

The mid ground is a rational scientific approach and consistent pressure and staying within the rails that are your primary cause.

cindyllm 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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Hikikomori 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Lately?

"I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible." 2009

He is just executing on this, and some of religious technocratic nonsense beliefs just leaked a bit.

Hikikomori 3 hours ago | parent [-]

And should not forget that Garry Tan the ycombinatior CEO attends the same church where Thiel held his Greta antichrist talk.

JPKab 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Garry is a good person and smearing people over their church is a disgusting thing to do.

I am now going to sit here and listen to this talk because I guarantee it's not saying what you think it's saying. And I don't want to listen to it. It's not a topic that interests me. But I guarantee you are completely distorting what was stated in that topic for maximum effect, entirely motivated by left-wing politics.

nickthegreek an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I imagine you are not done listening to them yet as the total over 8 hrs. But my research is showing that OPs are largely correct. Theil gave several talks to his church where he did in fact say these things.

In your post you state you are ‘not sure’, but also that that the poster is ‘wrong’.

> My thesis is that in the 17th, 18th century, the antichrist would have been a Dr Strangelove, a scientist who did all this sort of evil crazy science. In the 21st century, the antichrist is a luddite who wants to stop all science. It’s someone like Greta or Eliezer.

Sure, he eventually goes on to say stuff like..

> One of the ways these things always get reported is, I denounce Greta as an antichrist. And I want to be very clear: Greta is, I mean she’s maybe sort of a type or a shadow of an antichrist of a sort that would be tempting. But I don’t want to flatter her too much. So with Greta, you shouldn’t take her as the antichrist for sure. With AOC, you can choose whether or not you want to believe this disclaimer that I just gave

But I don’t think this is the win that you might think it is. The dude is a loon.

Hikikomori 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Going by your comment history any criticism of Thiel and the administration is just left wing politics, but hard to hear you over the sound of drowning yourself with kool-aid.

Weird that you seem to support this administration that Thiel is very much associated with but find it offensive when there's a very clear association between Thiel and Garry. He's just going to this specific church to pray or whatever? Paying no mind to the anti-christ talk happening next door. I do hope this is the last breaths of religion in the western world, it needs to die.

JPKab 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're entirely motivated by politics here. Everything is backwards reasoning from that. You don't like the guy because he is right wing and you are not right wing.

Despite the fact that you would call the police on a trespasser if they took up residence in your home without permission, or even your yard without your permission, you don't believe in borders or any kind of concept of them. Therefore, you don't like ICE.

Got it.

It's incredibly hypocritical but I understand it.

And anyone that helps ice is bad and anyone that is right-wing is bad and therefore Peter Thiel is bad and therefore everything he says you can distort and weaponize through a filter of "he's a Nazi".

Let's just be clear here:

Virtually every country on the planet enforces their borders and kicks people out if they are overstaying their visas or have snuck in without permission. If you have a problem with ICE, you have a problem with borders and national sovereignty. And if you still believe in those things but still don't like it, then you don't understand game theory. If someone can simply jump a fence and then be allowed to stay then everyone will jump the fence.

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thinkingemote 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"yes I'm right. Not sure why you are being downvoted. Do your own research"

Does research and now admits that he wasn't right, and understands why he and others were being down voted and hopefully learns from this and moves on.

Kudos for the edit and honesty: it's rare to see learning actually happen in fiery threads! I've been in your shoes and learning and change is possible.

baobabKoodaa 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't know, man. How much of a distinction do you want to make between "literal anti-christ" and "literal legionnaire for the literal anti-christ"?