| ▲ | dlenski 2 hours ago |
| I discovered a very similar vulnerability in Mysa smart thermostats a year ago, also involving MQTT, and also allowing me to view and control anyone's thermostat anywhere in the world:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43392991 Also discovered during reverse-engineering of the devices’ communications protocols. IoT device security is an utterly shambolic mess. |
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| ▲ | stevage an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| That is terrifying. Messing with thermostats could be enough to kill vulnerable people. |
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| ▲ | dlenski 26 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Yes. An excerpt from my initial email to Mysa's security contact… > I stumbled upon these vulnerabilities on one of the coldest days of this winter in Vancouver. An attacker using them could have disabled all Mysa-connected heaters in the America/Vancouver timezone in the middle of the night. That would include the heat in the room where my 7-month-old son sleeps. |
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| ▲ | minimalthinker 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I’m not super familiar with MQTT. I wonder how common this is.. |
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| ▲ | dlenski an hour ago | parent [-] | | MQTT is a very simple pub/sub messaging protocol. It's used in a enormous number of IoT devices. The "IoT gateway" service from AWS supports MQTT and a whole lot of IoT devices are tethered to this service specifically. |
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