| ▲ | dizzy9 4 hours ago |
| Excellent news. Babylon 5 is underappreciated, but it has mainly good episodes and several amazing ones.[0] However, if I can be cynical for a moment: The article title is misleading. Only a few episodes have been uploaded so far. At the current rate of one episode per week, it will take until March 2028 to conclude all five seasons. That's assuming they post every episode, and allow the episodes to remain up in the long term. For some reason, the first episode of season 1, Midnight on the Firing Line, is missing from the YouTube upload, which is a pretty critical omission. YouTube is also a minefield of spoilers in the video recommendations. I can't recommend the YouTube uploads to newcomers right now. The Blu-ray collection appears to be available for about $100. [0]: https://seriesgraph.com/show/3137-babylon-5 |
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| ▲ | Groxx 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| Yeah, so far I see mislabeled-pilot, and episodes 3 and 4. That... does not (currently) look like "Babylon 5 is now free to watch". That looks like a minor probing to see if they can charge for it again somewhere. That kind of thing happens constantly, and it's rare that it ever finishes. |
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| ▲ | 1970-01-01 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Without understanding the motive behind it, you should assume it is not good news. You're right to be skeptical of the upload count. All they're doing is sheltering the show on YouTube until the view counters rise to the point of another streaming service making a charitable offer. Then, poof all episodes are moved to another service without notice. |
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| ▲ | Throaway1982 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I really enjoyed it until they shoehorned in an attractive human + wierd alien romance to compete with Odo & Kira (barf) on DS9 |
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| ▲ | lolive 25 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Didn't rewatch it for decades. But isn't this romance a very background narrative arc until the very latest season? |
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| ▲ | wiradikusuma 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Isn't the linked YouTube video title literally "Season 1, Episode 1"? |
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| ▲ | thinkingemote 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | yes, somewhat incorrectly as its the pilot / first movie, that came out before season 1 started https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_5#Pilot_film_(1993) The numbering of the uploaded episodes seems to be off by one versus wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Babylon_5_episodes#Sea... | | |
| ▲ | rapind an hour ago | parent [-] | | > The numbering of the uploaded episodes seems to be off by one versus wikipedia. That’s because there are two hard things when it comes to uploading content. - Off by one errors. |
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| ▲ | nobody9999 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >Isn't the linked YouTube video title literally "Season 1, Episode 1"? Yes and no It's the pilot (and consequently the first[2]) episode "The Gathering", which actually doesn't have an episode number.[0] The first aired episode was S1E1 "Midnight on the Firing Line". The former was released as a "TV Movie" even though it was the pilot episode. [0] http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/eplist.html for the episode listings.[1] [1] Be careful, a wrong click can end up giving you spoilers. :( [2] I'd note that the pilot episode has significant personnel, prop and make-up differences from the rest of the series. |
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| ▲ | nikanj an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Babylon 5 has never been easy to watch which is a large factor in the underappreciation. Hard to appreciate something you can’t watch legally |
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| ▲ | MrMember an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | It's very easy to watch. When I wanted to watch it a few years ago it took only a few minutes to find a torrent of the full series and less than an hour to download. | |
| ▲ | moffkalast 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I find it hard to believe anyone on this site has a problem with piracy, nor technical nor moral. | | |
| ▲ | krapp 29 minutes ago | parent [-] | | You'd be surprised. "Hacker" doesn't mean what it once did, and the spirit of the old hacker culture is all but dead here. | | |
| ▲ | mystraline 8 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The "hacker" here is a soulless techbro willing to sell more parts to make a buck. Of course, since he has no more parts of his own, he sells yours. Naturally, theres no permission. |
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| ▲ | iso1631 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > The Blu-ray collection appears to be available for about $100. It saddens me that people aren't willing to pay a pittance in cash (about $1 an hour) for entertainment. They're willing to spend their time, but not their money. This isn't just buying a 100 episode box set, it applies to people complaining "I'd have to spend $10 on $streaming_service to watch that 5 hour miniseries, that's terrible" too. |
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| ▲ | cosmic_cheese 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I think the aversion to subscribing to a streaming service for a single series has more to do with the recurring nature of the subscription than it does the price. You have to remember to cancel it when you’re done, which is easy to forget with so many things bring for our attention these days. That $10 could easily multiply several times over if it slips your mind, at which point congratulations, you’ve paid a significant portion of the box set’s price to rent the series. All streaming services should offer prepaid options, so you can add time in 30/60/90 day increments. Less mental overhead and it better matches how a lot of people pay for streaming anyway. | |
| ▲ | squeedles 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'd be delighted to spend that for a Blu-ray of the series but I'm afraid of getting the mangled version that they released on DVD. For background, JMS knew the widescreen transition was coming so filmed everything in 16:9. As he put it at the time, it didn't really cost more, you just had to pay more attention to lighting at the wings. All CGI was done in 4:3 because it was thought to be easy to rerender in the future. Alas, the digital assets were not preserved properly and when the time came for DVD, nobody wanted to pay for more work. There may be places where they used the 16:9 masters, but anyplace where there was CGI, particularly where they were compositing over live action, basically chopped the top and bottom of the 4:3 resulting in a sub-VGA mess. It made everyone weep. | | | |
| ▲ | Uvix 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | When I buy the box set, at least I'll be able to watch it in perpetuity. $10 to own a 5 hour miniseries would be more than reasonable, but I don't want to have to pay $10 each time I want to watch it. (If I even can watch it, and they haven't lost the license in the interim.) | |
| ▲ | jl6 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | It’s not just pure value analysis, it’s a lack of confidence that the money will go to the people that deserve it. |
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| ▲ | nephihaha 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's let down by its effects which even appeared ropey at the time. However, some good storylines. |
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| ▲ | Telemakhos 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Having been alive at the time, I can tell you that the effects were amazing then. B5 was one of the first shows to use computer graphics and partially-virtual sets. It wasn't limited by the number of times you could re-composite a handful of models together, so it showed whole armadas of ships. Windows didn't open onto a black felt field of stars but a green screen that allowed ships to pull up right outside the window. The effects don't hold up to what has followed in the past quarter century, and they weren't preserved in a good resolution, so they'll never look very good on a high-resolution monitor instead of an old CRT. But, at the time, they were amazing. | | |
| ▲ | moron4hire an hour ago | parent [-] | | Having also been alive at the time, I can tell you I thought the effects looked hokey and cheap. | | |
| ▲ | HelloMcFly an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | It is extremely difficult for me to believe that someone watching Babylon 5 as it aired on a typical sized CRT television thought the effects looked "cheap". Hokey? Okay, maybe, that's subjective enough to be non-debatable. But "cheap" in the context of a television show? The shots were so much more dense and dynamic than what Star Trek was doing at the time, which is the obvious comparison. It's the season one acting that I find the biggest barrier to entry. It settles in by the end mostly, and the acting markedly improves from Season 2 onward though it always retains some of that campy scifi feel. | |
| ▲ | ghaff an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | They were pretty good for the budget. (As someone else noted at least a lot were done on Amigas.) I really liked Babylon 5 at the time but there's a lot about it you need to overlook. I recommended it to someone and they told me it was the worst recommendation I ever gave them. The acting was a mixed bag from very good to pretty wooden. And the whole will it get renewed or won't it situation led to non-optimal organization of the last couple of seasons. |
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| ▲ | alienbaby 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | If I remember right, the graphics in early episodes were rendered on commodore amigas |
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| ▲ | Akronymus 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Also, it seems like piracy is still yhe superior form to watch it over YT because, quite frankly, YT's quality is crap. |
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| ▲ | roywiggins 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | fwiw the whole thing is free to watch on Tubi and the quality there is very nice. | | |
| ▲ | nseggert 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It was just pulled from Tubi a few days ago. Still on the Roku channel, though (for now). | | |
| ▲ | roywiggins 2 minutes ago | parent [-] | | ah, bummer. The recent-ish HD remaster is gorgeous if a bit incongruous to watch a mid-90s show in perfect detail. |
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