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| ▲ | NeutralCrane 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Maybe low traction is a good thing. We don’t need social media to be an all consuming addictive mega platform. | | |
| ▲ | mrtksn 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I could have agreed if the high traction ones that do all the bad things didn’t exist. | | |
| ▲ | kaibee 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | We've come full circle to banning advertising. It seems like we have good reason to believe that people will create the infrastructure for the communities that they _want_ to exist and fund them. So just banning advertising will probably be fine. Worst case scenario, we gradually loosen the ban. The advertising hellscape will grow back immediately, nothing of value will be lost. |
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| ▲ | foxygen 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Moving the goalposts much? Of course there aren't any free services serving millions currently, how could they, when Facebook/X spends millions to make sure everyone stays on their platform? Which non tech savvy would want to move to a platform without all their friends? That's the gotcha with social networks, once you grow big enough, it is really hard for people to move off of it. Still, funny how you ignored IRCs/forums that I mentioned. Those were used by MANY people, and could scale infinitely. You are literally arguing against something that has already happened. | | |
| ▲ | andsoitis 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Still, funny how you ignored IRCs/forums that I mentioned. Those were used by MANY people, and could scale infinitely. At its peak (late 1990s to early 2000s), IRC was estimated to have about 3–4 million concurrent users worldwide at any given moment, with tens of millions of total users over time. Pales in comparison with the scale that’s needed today, given the number of people, variety of media, and bandwidth required. | | |
| ▲ | kaibee 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Storage/compute/etc were orders of magnitude more expensive at the time, so the fact that it was 3-4 million is uh, pretty impressive? You could host a Matrix server for your 1,000 closest friends for basically no money. |
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| ▲ | mrtksn 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | No I am not moving the goalposts, the alternative shouldn’t just exist it should actually do the job and by doing the job, I don’t mean that if people made the effort to use it, it can do the job. I mean people should be using it. Also, no people are not stupid and its not their fault for not using it. |
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