Have we come to such a low cultural point that ads are seen as some kind of basic human right?

Fuck ads. What's absurd is tolerating them and the damage they do to media, consumers, kids, lesser and/or more honest businesses, culture, products, and so on all the way to the Windows and macOS system UIs.

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lobf 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I work in ads... :-/

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coldtea 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think HGttG had a good solution for that involving a large spaceship.

	▲	lobf 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I mean really I work in filmmaking. Ads just fund most of my business.

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forgetfreeman 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Work in something else. I make significantly more doing poison ivy removal than I ever did or was ever going to working in tech.

	▲	rogerrogerr 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Are you willing to share rough numbers? Totally understand if not, just curious. Been thinking about something like this to get away from the AI force-feeding.

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gchamonlive 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What do you do? Honest question

	▲	lobf 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I work on the production end. I’m a producer and production manager for live-action ads.

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johnnyanmac 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We're on a startup entrepreneur site. I'm not surprised it's seen as the lifeblood of the industry here. It sort of is.

At the same time, this has the same energy of "if we release all the files, the system will collapse". Maybe we need the billionaires to feel some pain sometimes (even if yes, we'll feel more overall).

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BurningFrog 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Freedom of speech is a basic human right.

Ads are speech.

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coldtea 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>Ads are speech.

No, they are not.

People have been brainwashed and legal systems have been paid and bought for to consider them as such, just like corporations have been whitewashed to be treated as "persons".

In any case, we regulate all other kinds of speech as well: explicit content, libel, classified information, cigarette ads, and so on.

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tcfhgj 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ads aren't free speech, they are the absence of it, because you are paid for a preselected speech.

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mr_00ff00 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We already ban tobacco ads on tv (in the us) is their freedom of speech violated?

I don’t think you need to count companies being able to put any message out there as free speech.

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yxhuvud 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No. Ads are paying money to get a platform for that speech. Having a platform is in no way a basic right.

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Analemma_ 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That’s not even true in the United States (they’re ‘commercial speech’, which carries a still significant but lesser set of protections), never mind in Europe.

	▲	Matticus_Rex 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Commercial speech rights are still part of the "free speech" bundle of 1A protections.

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jbxntuehineoh 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> mmmmm yes thank you daddy may I have some more?

	▲	johnnyanmac 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		If he's from the US, he's technically correct. That's the high level argument of Citizens United. Granted, that's proven to be a horrible concept. So let's repeal that.