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WalterBright 10 hours ago

> something comparable to what the Roman Empire had done

Not in sophistication. For examples:

The Pantheon - https://www.pantheonroma.com/en/pantheon-history/ There are no domes in Mayan architecture.

The aquaducts - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_aqueduct The romans mastered the arch. The Mayans never used them.

Roman iron and steel - the Mayans used copper and gold.

Roman ships had keels - Mayan ships did not. Cannot sail upwind without keels.

Romans used the wheel - Mayans did not.

Romans used papyrus for writing, and would send letters around the empire - the Mayans wrote on bark.

And so on.

leodler 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Doesn't seem nearly as black and white when you consider the Mayans were themselves way ahead of all of Europe with their use of elastomers, effectively creating vulcanized rubber over a thousand years before Charles Goodyear.

Hard to consider this that sophisticated in the twenty-first century but their use of the number zero also predates Europe by hundreds of years.

The Palenque also contains both aqueducts and arches (though not used together in the Roman style): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palenque#Palace

WalterBright 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The Mayans used the corbeled vault, which is much more primitive than the arch. There's a reason people who invented arches never went back to the corbeled vault.

Compare any of the Mayan buildings with the Roman Coliseum in sophistication. I've been through Chichen Itza and spent some time looking closely at the construction of it and the neighboring buildings. I encourage you to do the same.

The Roman "style" of aqueducts used arches so they could cross valleys while maintaining a constant slope. I don't think the Mayans had that, and the Mayan aqueducts didn't seem to be very long, like 200 feet vs the Roman miles long ones.

The Romans also had hypocausts, which were a method of piping in heated air under the floor to warm the house.

jatora 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

still seems pretty black and white to me lol

gwerbin 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This only makes it even more fascinating. A Bronze Age civilization, contemporaneous with Charlemagne!

lobf 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean, only because they weren’t outcompeted by an old world civilization yet.

dyauspitr 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

To be fair, the Romans had so many cultures they could draw their technology from- the Chinese, the Indians, the Middle East, etc. The Roman Empire was kind of a group project with three or four groups.

The Mayans were essentially isolated on their continent.