We probably shouldn't be using the "archive" site that hijacks your browser into DDOSing other people. I'm actually surprised HN hasn't banned it.

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lbeckman314 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Oof TIL, thanks for the heads up that's a shame!

https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/417269/archive-toda...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment...

https://gyrovague.com/2026/02/01/archive-today-is-directing-...

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observationist 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Some of us have, and some of us still use it. The functionality and the need for an archive not subject to the same constraints as the wayback machine and other institutions outweighs the blackhat hijinks and bickering between a blogger and the archive.is person/team.

My own ethical calculus is that they shouldn't be ddos attacking, but on the other hand, it's the internet equivalent of a house egging, and not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. It probably got gyrovague far more attention than they'd have gotten otherwise, so maybe they can cash in on that and thumb their nose at the archive.is people.

Regardless - maybe "we" shouldn't be telling people what sites to use or not use -if you want to talk morals and ethics, then you better stop using gmail, amazon, ebay, Apple, Microsoft, any frontier AI, and hell, your ISP has probably done more evil things since last tuesday than the average person gets up to in a lifetime, so no internet, either. And totally forget about cellular service. What about the state you live in, or the country? Are they appropriately pure and ethical, or are you going to start telling people they need to defect to some bastion of ethics and nobility?

Real life is messy. Purity tests are stupid. Use archive.is for what it is, and the value it provides which you can't get elsewhere, for as long as you can, because once they're unmasked, that sort of thing is gone from the internet, and that'd be a damn shame.

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sonofhans 9 hours ago | parent [-]

My guess is that you’ve not had your house egged, or have some poverty of imagination about it. I grew up in the midwest where this did happen. A house egging would take hours to clean up, and likely cause permanent damage to paint and finishes.

Or perhaps you think it’s no big deal to damage someone else’s property, as long as you only do it a little.

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		they just wrote a paragraph about evil being easy, convenient and providing value, how the evilness of others legitimizes their own, how the inability to achieve absolute moral purity means that one small evil deed is indistinguishable from being evil all the time, discredited trying to avoid evil as stupid, claimed that only those who have unachievable moral purity should be allowed to lecture about ethics in favor of good, and literally gave a shout out to hell. I don't think property damage is what we need to worry about. Walk away slowly and do not accept any deals or whatabouts.

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zahlman 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I can't find the claimed JS in the page source as of now, and also it displays just fine with JS disabled.

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armchairhacker 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’d be happy if people stop linking to paywalled sites in the first place. There’s usually a small blog on the same topic and ironically the small blogs poster here are better quality.

But otherwise, without an alternative, the entire thread becomes useless. We’d have even more RTFA, degrading the site even for people who pay for the articles. I much prefer keeping archive.today to that.

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edm0nd 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

eh, both ArchiveToday and gyrovague are shit humans. Its really just a conflict in between two nerds not "other people".

They need to just hug it out and stop doxing each other lol