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ddtaylor 11 hours ago

> So the people flipping the burgers and serving the customers will be safe, but the accountants and marketing folks won't be.

And that's probably something most people are okay with. Work that can be automated should be and humans should be spending their time on novel things instead of labor if possible.

kristiandupont 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

>And that's probably something most people are okay with

You think most people are okay with most white collar jobs disappearing? I certainly am not, personally.

techpression 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What society is ready for that? We are looking at an possible outcome that will make the Great Depression look like a strong financial era of growth and prosperity. I don’t think most people are ok with the road to the goal in this case, doesn’t matter if you have work or not, mass unemployment destroys societies.

ddtaylor 8 hours ago | parent [-]

> What society is ready for that?

A free society.

mercanlIl 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I interpreted the parent comment as asking what society _specifically_? Not some abstract concept, but something that exists a step or two away from where we are right now.

techpression an hour ago | parent [-]

That is correct, living in Sweden with pretty high levels of social protection, but even so, high levels of white collar unemployment would make our very high risk housing market (we as a population has a very high loan ratio, much of it committed to housing) collapse once people can’t pay. That would make the banks likely to collapse because their money no longer exist and they’re all of a sudden real estate brokers with inventory far below what they paid out in loans. Union coffers would deplete fast, there would be no blue collar work so they also get dragged in with the storm. Oh and of course, the stock exchange will crash completely.

Covid gave us a glimpse, this would make it look like child’s play, because there’s no solution and it’s not getting better.

The rich will of course get richer, even if absolute value goes down, the relative value of their wealth will go up.

beeflet 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

all jobs will be automatable, and there will be no room for humans to work on novel things.

ddtaylor 8 hours ago | parent [-]

That's like saying we shouldn't push the space exploration boundary because people are so used to staying within it.

If you want to make the argument that singularity has occurred and that knowledge oracles are no longer needed, that's a bold claim.

If you want to make the argument it would escape our control, etc. that's a valid argument for proper controls.

If you want to make the argument that LLMs are sentient and that it's not ethical to "enslave" them, that's also a pretty bold stance currently.

Humans have been inventing technology and improving the quality of life (of our species!) for a very long time and that strategy hasn't changed IMO

beeflet 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm not saying any of that I am just saying that you and everyone you love will be killed by this technology and the world as we know it will be destroyed.

ddtaylor 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Why do you think humans automating more things destroys us? Did the calculator or horse and buggy make us obsolete?

Why didn't the Internet cause a massive death plague?