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butterfi 2 hours ago

Thats a pretty snarky thing to say about Apple. They were arguably the pioneers in OS UX... granted, its not the end all, be all, but still. You could do worse.

kibwen 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> They were arguably the pioneers in OS UX

Who is "they"? The employees at Apple when the HIG was first published in 1986, 40 years ago? That Apple is dead, what you see before you is an empty and rotted husk.

BugsJustFindMe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The people at Apple who were the pioneers are long gone. The people at Apple now have killed them and are wearing their skin.

riknos314 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

First is not the same as best. First is not even the same as good. First is only first. Just because someone was the pioneer doesn't mean they should be considered a positive example.

Introduced a concept decades ago in no way implies that their current implementation of the concept is at all ideal or market leading.

bartread 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> You could do worse.

Perhaps you shouldn't encourage them. Based on recent software releases from Apple they might see it as a challenge.

Lammy 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> arguably

Sick of this weasel word. Either argue it or don't.

digitalPhonix 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Also used incorrectly most of the time. They meant to use “debatably”.

Arguably:

- used to say that a statement is very possibly true even if it is not certain (merriam-webster)

- in a way that can be shown to be true (cambridge)

ie. you can be prove it through argument, not “you can make the argument”

james_marks an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Even worse, "I would argue that..."

It's not hypothetical if you are here, in the current tense, arguing that. I've mostly cured myself of the habit, but its tough.