I'm getting a strong feeling that the first generation of really, really talented people who built iOS in the 2000s have now to a substantial degree moved on/retired. Similar feeling with OS X/macOS.

Please correct me if I'm wrong - it is after all just a feeling.

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ASalazarMX 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

IMO Apple grew too much it became another slow megacorp, more connected to their quarterly reports and shareholders than their consumers and engineers. The growing Apple was the one that gave us innovation.

I'm not saying it's dead, not by far, but it has become stale. The biggest innovation it has made in 10+ years was using their mobile processors in laptops.

	▲	graemep 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That is the usual path. You can say the same of Google or Microsoft or pretty much any big tech company. Its true of many businesses outside tech too.

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sunaookami 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have this feeling for every software out there.

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thewebguyd 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It’s not overly far fetched. A lot of the software and platforms we use now we’re all developed around the same time period.

There’s obviously new talent coming in to the industry but the attitudes are different, and talented people like to make new things not work on someone else’s legacy code.

So yeah I think it’ll continue to get worse until something new replaces iOS/Android/macOs/Windows hegemony.

	▲	lysace 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		So Apple has a new software crisis on their hands. Echoes of the 90s. Well Microsoft too, but their customers are long used to working/living in a dumpster fire.

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smokel 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

People who like building new things, like building new things.

	▲	dzdt 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		And people who like getting raises dont like leaving things alone...

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materielle 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think the problem is actually political capital.

Someone who deeply understands how to qualify the product.

But with enough political sway to tell entire orgs of 1000s employees to shred their timelines and planning docs and go back to the lab until it’s right.

Without those two pieces, the problem is that individual devs and leaders know that there’s a problem. But the KPIs and timelines must lurch onwards!

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