| ▲ | WarmWash 8 hours ago |
| In the US Apple is the "Use it or your social group will not want to interact with you" option. Outside of tech circles (where apparently people easily get their entire family and friend network on signal), people want to use imessage and only want to use imessage. Android phones can't support imessage because they are poor low quality phones that cannot handle imessage. So you need a high quality phone like iphone so you can use imessage and easily communicate with your friends and family. This strategy of leveraging friends and family to pressure people into getting iPhones was intentional and came out in the Epic trial lawsuit. I shit you not there is a large percentage of people in the US that think Android phones are not capable of sending pcitures and videos. |
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| ▲ | Tepix 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Android phones can't support imessage because they are poor low quality phones that cannot handle imessage. Android phones can't use iMessage because Apple never opened it up, contrary to what Steve Jobs was hinting at back when it was released. Nowadays I believe you can get a blue bubble when chatting from an Android with an iPhone user by using RCS / JOYN. |
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| ▲ | samhclark 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You don't get a blue bubble for using RCS. That's still reserved for iMessage exclusively. (At least, on iOS 26 in the US on T-Mobile) | | |
| ▲ | nozzlegear 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, there's a myth spread on the internet after Apple announced rcs support in iMessage that it was the end of green bubbles for android users. But green bubbles still exist; they never meant the other party is just using sms, they meant the other party isn't using iMessage. |
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| ▲ | _alternator_ 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Pretty sure that was sarcasm. |
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| ▲ | ryandrake 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > "Use it or your social group will not want to interact with you" Maybe your "social group". If your friends refuse to talk to you because of the cell phone brand you use, I have bad news for you: They might not really be great friends. |
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| ▲ | etrautmann 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That’s not what this is about. If you have a group chat with one android user, it used to make all aspects of the interactions clunkier. Green bubbles, sending a new text instead of reactions, etc. as such, people would get left off of a list. Those small interactions add up over time. | | |
| ▲ | DontForgetMe 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Man, if you seriously would exclude someone from social interactions because of the colour of their speech bubble in group messages, I dread to think how m stressful it would be to interact with people who's entire bodies were different colours. Not even joking. 'Its legit stressful if someone's messages use a different colour background' is not logically compatible with being ok having different coloured people in view. I'm not actually calling you a racist, because it would also mean you get distressed if people wear different colour clothes and have avatars that look different, and I think a social group like that would have struggled enough to realise that the solution might not be 'get the Wrongly Coloured Group Text Guy to purchase a different phone rather than, idk, stop spending so much time staring at screens. But it was amusing to imagine how wildly conformist one would have to be to actually dislike someone because their phone number doesn't have enough 7's or their name is longer than everyone else's so it looks untidy or whatever. | | |
| ▲ | array_key_first 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | He's not saying HE is this way, he's saying the US culturally is this way. Which... uh, yeah, it is. The US is superficial, it's vain, it's racist. I thought everyone knew that. |
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| ▲ | malfist 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If your "friends" care enough about small stuff like that to cut you out of their conversations, they're not your friends. | | |
| ▲ | lynndotpy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You're misunderstanding the situation and reading malice into teenagers who are living in a world of decisions that were made before they were even born. It's not "small stuff", it's the entire medium through which the conversation happens. It's the entire thing. Do you "cut" your mom out of your group chats with your coworkers? Do you "cut" your coworkers out of intimate chats with your partners? Of course you do, because people maintain multiple overlapping group chats. In group chats with your blue-bubble friends, they will be easier to read (because of the shades of color), media quality will be better, you can add more people to the group chat after it's made, you can text people from your iPad or Macbook, you can text people over WiFi even when you don't have service. When each text used to cost money, it was also a huge deal that iMessage (on WiFi) was free. This is on top of all the other chat features like playing games, pins, etc. A lot of these limitations are intentional so that Apple can make more money, some of them are just limitations of SMS / RCS. But the point is that this is not the kids faults, this isn't bullying. | | |
| ▲ | malfist 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I am not misunderstanding the situation. If you omit me from a group message with our circle of friends because of the color of my speech bubble, you are not a real friend. Full stop. | | |
| ▲ | lynndotpy an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't know you, of course we're not friends. I addressed this in my comment. There are group chats you are part of and ones you won't be part of. Most people maintain multiple different overlapping group chats. | |
| ▲ | ryandrake an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Just the phrase "blue bubble friends" strikes me as absolutely wild, foreign and ridiculous. But, I admit to being almost 50. | | |
| ▲ | lynndotpy 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The "blue bubble" just signifies someone's using the iMessage platform, and we still have multiple messaging platforms nowadays. Think of it like "Usenet friends", "IRC friends", "ICQ friends", "AIM friends", etc. |
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| ▲ | mingus88 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Seriously, sounds more like a local user group than anyone who cares about you |
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| ▲ | rehevkor5 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | My favorite part about this is how you blame it on your friend, not on Apple. | |
| ▲ | cpuguy83 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This just isn't true anymore (besides the green). |
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| ▲ | stockresearcher 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yes. Mean girls at school are mean. If everyone has the same color bubble they’ll just find something else to be mean about. | | |
| ▲ | lynndotpy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This is really reductionist. This isn't a bullying or in-group / out-group thing. Someone who is not on iMessage will be excluded from iMessage group chats, just as someone who is not on Snapchat will be excluded from Snapchat group chats, just as someone who is not on Instagram will be excluded from Instagram group chats, someone who is not on WeChat will be excluded from WeChat group chats. | |
| ▲ | pmontra 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is correct. Everybody has green bubbles in Europe even on iOS, because everybody is using WhatsApp. But mean people are still mean. |
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| ▲ | lynndotpy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm not a highschooler, and you don't understand the point. If you're not an American younger than 35, this is probably something you don't understand because you didn't experience first-hand. It's not a scenario where "your friends refuse to talk to you", it's "there are so many people to talk to, and there is a lot of friction around talking to this one person". You don't get the chance to become their friends in the first place. If you can't get on iMessage, you can't be in iMessage group chats. Similarly, if you don't have a cell phone, you can't text. If you don't have a landline, people can't call you. If you don't have the internet, you can't get on chatrooms. You wouldn't expect a teenager in the 90s to give up a landline in favor of living exclusively by handwritten letter. | |
| ▲ | creaturemachine 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is the state of friendship in the social media age. |
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| ▲ | kwanbix 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Android phones can't support imessage because they are poor low quality phones that cannot handle imessage. So you need a high quality phone like iphone so you can use imessage and easily communicate with your friends and family. You are missing the /s right? |
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| ▲ | zdragnar 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Texting images and videos to iPhone users used to be much worse than it is now, but it's gotten better in the past few years if my (Android) experience with my family (iPhones) is any indication. The hard to tell part is I'm also crossing carriers to message them, so that might have been the issue as well. |
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| ▲ | bix6 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > I shit you not there is a large percentage of people in the US that think Android phones are not capable of sending pcitures and videos. Source? Would love to read this one lol |
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| ▲ | actionfromafar 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | It was kind of true a very long time ago except in potato quality. And if you were out of data, but was connected on WiFi instead, you actually couldn't. And you still can't text a large video across the Android / iPhone chasm, can you? | | |
| ▲ | vel0city 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You can send decently sized videos between Android and iOS assuming RCS is enabled. Attachment sizes can now often be up to 100MB, where as with MMS you'd often be limited to maybe a megabyte or two. I'm regularly sending/receiving gifs and decent quality short videos between iOS and Android these days. | |
| ▲ | _alternator_ 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | ‘Potato quality’ ahahahahahahhaa I hope this was iPhone autocorrect to prove the point. | | |
| ▲ | cwnyth 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | No, it's an old phrase. It came from the question, "Was this filmed on a potato?" when someone posted a video of particularly bad quality, as if their phone was a potato. | | |
| ▲ | joecool1029 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | It wasn’t too long ago either. I mentioned it before in prior comments but due to how MMS works at one major carrier (verizon) they sent picture quality back to pre-smartphone days for a large % of android users. The quick explainer is phones send a user agent with the request to fetch a media message, this user agent contains a link to a file that describes what the device can handle. Apple and Blackberry hosted these files themselves, Verizon hosted most of the android ones on its network itself. They decommissioned the server hosting them a few years ago which made it so all affected devices pulled the lowest potato quality image down for compatibility. Huge number of complaints. |
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| ▲ | dmi 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's a phrase that's been around for years to mean "poor quality" (https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/recorded-with-a-potato). One theory behind the term is that the recording device was so bad/low-tech, it could be powered by a potato battery. | | |
| ▲ | NetMageSCW 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | For smartphones, I think it has always meant you could replace your smartphone with a potato and get the same functionality. |
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| ▲ | swasheck 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| i wanted to hate apple so much at the advent of the smartphone era, so when i made the switch from flip to smart, i went with a samsung and gingerbread and it was such a universally awful experience compared to the iphone mobiles my employer issued (before BYOD). i gutted it out through the life of the contract and switched to iphone for my personal as well and have been quite happy up until ios 18. if there is no appreciable change in the next version, i plan to export my curated music library/playlists and walk away from my "sign in with apple id" accounts and set up new ones. liquid glass is just that painful and hostile of a user experience. |
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| ▲ | PlatoIsADisease 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >"Use it or your social group will not want to interact with you" I see this in middle and lower-middle class people. But in the upper-middle class, this is a non issue. We know how Apple manipulates people who struggle to spend $50/mo on a phone. |
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| ▲ | browningstreet 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| This feels like 5 year old social media bullshit.. can we let it rest? |
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