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What's the difference between a "disc" and a "disk"? (2023)(support.apple.com)
37 points by IndySun 2 hours ago | 42 comments
bmacho 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> In most varieties of English, disk is the preferred spelling for magnetic media (hence floppy disk, hard disk, disk drive), whereas disc is preferred for optical media (hence compact disc, digital versatile disc, optical disc).

> For all other uses, disk is preferred in American English and acceptable in Canadian English, and disc otherwise.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disk#Usage_notes

sandworm101 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

Also, disk is also used in "diskette", whereas disc stands alone. So as magnetic disks shrank and were called disketts on and off, they kept that spelling. Optical discs never really shrank over the years, never being called discettes.

oneplane 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

When they shrank the disc it just became minidisc ;-) But that was technically MO, not just optical. And: it was in a cartridge so I suppose they really should have called it minidisk.

irishcoffee 4 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> Also, disk is also used in "diskette", whereas disc stands alone. So as magnetic disks shrank and were called disketts on and off, they kept that spelling. Optical discs never really shrank over the years, never being called discettes.

How old are you? Nothing you said is accurate.

sedatk 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The term "disc" for storage predates optical media. "Disc" was the common spelling for a disk (like a floppy disk) on British 8-bit computers like Amstrad CPC or Sinclair Spectrum.[1][2]

It seems like the distinction simply comes from British and American preferences.[3]

I have no idea how Apple jumped to such an arbitrary conclusion.

[1] Kempston Disc Interface manual: https://k1.spdns.de/Vintage/Sinclair/82/Peripherals/Disc%20I...

[2] Amstrad Disc Drive Interface manual: https://www.cpcwiki.eu/imgs/3/3f/DDI-1_User_Manual.pdf

[3] Etymonline entry for "disk": https://www.etymonline.com/word/disk

Doctor_Fegg 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

Disk was already the standard spelling in the UK by 1984 (in a computing context), just as program was used in preference to programme. But Amstrad mistyped it as disc on the plastic mouldings for their first CPC, and were too cheap to change them. Consequently CPC 3in disks were always called discs even into the 90s.

sedatk 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

Did Acorn also misspell it in BBC Micro manual in 1984?

https://archive.org/details/BBCUG/page/n19/mode/2up?q=disc

MarkusQ 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is goofy. The difference was originally regional (US/UK), and which caught on depended on which product dominated which sub-market. There's no semantic difference.

innocentoldguy 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

Philips is the company that came up with the term "Compact Disc" for CDs, so we can blame them for goofing up the regional spellings and making the world more confusing.

I think Alan Shugart (or at least his team at IBM) started calling portable data disks "floppy disks," and then "hard disk" emerged to differentiate rigid disks from bendy ones. Maybe we can also blame him and his team.

The important thing is that someone gets blamed. :D

irishcoffee 2 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does anyone have a spate tire? My tyre popped, probably because someone jammed a 'y' in the middle.

fainpul an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And where is the "drive" in an SSD?

Trying to explain arbitrary words with logic always fails.

actionfromafar 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

Same as the Alcubierre drive! ;)

OhMeadhbh 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Tron, if I remember correctly, had DISCS instead of DISKS. And if modern CPUs are RISCy, then maybe modern Intel architecture CPUs are Risky.

coffee-- an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There was a subculture communicating on FIDOnet about collecting AOL installation media (3.5" disks) and reusing them. Somehow we ended up coining the term "bisk" to refer to AOL's given-away media, and much sadness was had when they moved to CDs.

So add one more to the list: a commercial disk reused for your custom .WAD files can be a bisk.

addaon 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Always thought that “disc” was the original word for an object of a certain shape. As they evolved for computer storage, we got smaller diskettes… which were abbreviated to disks.

bonesss an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The last letter.

[Did I pass the interview? No? Understandable.]

asdfman123 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As a quick and dirty heuristic: the C in disc is for CD (or other optical media).

rikthevik an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A disc looks like a disc, and a disk doesn't look like a disc.

delichon 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

  sceptic - skeptic
  mollusc - mollusk
  celt - kelt
  cabob - kabob
  disc - disk
Corporate wants you to find the difference.
9rx 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

sceptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense optically.

skeptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense magnetically.

gaigalas an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Apple, the etymology company.

OhMeadhbh 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

They certainly do have bugs.

[Edit. Sorry, misread your comment as saying "entomology."]

adamdonahue 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So a floppy disk has a disc inside?

KwanEsq 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

No because they weren't optical, they were magnetic.

onraglanroad 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yes it did. They were magnetic disks. And they were floppy. The outer case of a 3.5" was solid but just rip it open and you can see the disk itself is floppy.

Edit: oh right, you're talking about the different spellings. Those were entirely arbitrary. We mixed between the two.

irishcoffee 32 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Sure does.

dTal an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Disc = round part visible

Disk = round part hidden or no round part

Have I got it!?

Someone an hour ago | parent [-]

I think their primary difference is disc = optical, disk = magnetic. That’s what they mention first.

All of that “in the UK”.

Looking at the store, they’re using “SSD Storage” for SSD.

Symbiote an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The British spelling was used by Philips when they launched the Compact Disc with Sony.

Disk was used by American companies inventing hard disks, floppy disks etc.

British software often used "disc" for both, e.g. RISC OS on Acorn/ARM/Raspberry Pi [1].

[1] https://arcwiki.org.uk/index.php/RISC_OS_3 (see screenshot)

HPsquared 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

SSD could stand for "SSD Storage Device".

Bring back recursive acronyms!

Wowfunhappy an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

SSD, of course, stands for Solid State Dis[c,k]...

9rx 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

Solid State Drive, usually, but when it comes to language anything goes.

Gualdrapo 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When I was much more active in Reddit did one time a meme for r/peloton of Froome yelling at disc brakes - but wrote it as "Old man yells at disk brakes".

Nobody told me anything so I guessed it was good grammar and such.

But then noticed everyone calls them "disc brakes"

dheera 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What about bloc vs block

ChrisArchitect an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Disks" as in floppy disks, are removable also. Some weird seperation choices in this 'article'.

dcminter an hour ago | parent [-]

Plus a common alternative to "hard drive" was "hard disk."

My late father never quite got out of the habit of calling it the "Winchester" - itself a nickname for a specific IBM drive model.

onraglanroad 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

More modern hard disks included the drive mechanism in one unit.

They used to be separate, so you would mount the hard disk on the drive to make it accessible.

ghurtado an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Kinda surprising that the article doesn't mention the actual origin of the words:

"Disc" comes from "discus" (the plate thrown in the Olympics)

"Disk" comes from "diskette" (French for "small disc")

I probably just outed myself as a boomer assuming that was common knowledge.

forty 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Disquette*

In French we say disque for both. it's pronounced the same as disk and disc.

rf15 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You are (rightfully) saying that they semantically mean kinda the same thing. That doesn't neatly fit any branding guideline though, I'm sorry.

bitwize 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Both versions are disque in French. (presumably disquette for "diskette") Don't blame the French for this.

The fact of the matter is that the spelling "disk" probably entered common use from IBM who invented both the hard and the floppy disk, calling the latter the Type 1 Diskette. Enough people were exposed to the "disk" spelling from IBM usage that it kind of stuck, although in the early 1980s the spelling "floppy disc" was sometimes encountered.

DonHopkins 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Pff! Disc comes from Disco!