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kelseyfrog 6 hours ago

The rate of return on this is phenomenal.

A 53" balloon costs $9.99. You could shut down all large and medium hubs in the US for $629.37/day. The asymmetry is astounding and I'm surprised we don't defend against this kind of attack more efficiently.

CobrastanJorji 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Doesn't usually work. There are over a thousand incursions by unmanned aircraft systems along the U.S.-Mexico border each month, per the NORAD commander: https://www.war.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/370778... . They pretty much never result in shutting down air space or launching missiles.

Responding to a single party balloon with a giant laser, thus causing a saner government official to close the airspace because some moron is firing giant lasers into the air, is unusual. Probably not a usable asymmetric attack vector.

bakies 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

wow maybe we should stop giving the law enforcement orgs weapons of war

kelseyfrog 5 hours ago | parent [-]

All cops should have a nuke.

gunapologist99 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

'saner govt official because moron firing giant lasers into the air' - lasers just go everywhere at once and hit everything in the air, into the stratosphere? it's a big sky and gets bigger the higher you go.

collingreen 5 hours ago | parent [-]

lol, this is a great imply-but-don't-make-a-point from an account called gunapologist99.

Is the implication here that someone firing laser weapons at things flying near the airport has no realistic danger for planes flying near the airport and therefore this was an overreaction?

grayhatter 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm equally surprised we don't fend off these rampant goblin threats too!

More pragmatically, such a system would cost multiple millions, and would take years to actually stabilize in a manner that would recover the fictitious costs to shutting down the airports with gaps. (i.e. I'm surprised you so easily bought into the 500k figure)

All because a bunch of idiots lost track of their one balloon, once? The asymmetry is banal. There are cheaper ways that require less planning than that.

kelseyfrog 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I avoided the 500k figure and instead just mentioned airport shutdowns.

I'm surprised you saw it in my comment. It's reminiscent of an airport seeing a would be drone.

asdff 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Such a system is as easy as a set of binoculars and an airsoft gun

asdff 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If it became a real issue you'd hire someone for $25/hr to patrol with an airsoft gun

masfuerte 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is already a thing in Eastern Europe.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8655gn84ego

Forgeties79 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the general assumption is that the US government is competent enough to know the difference between a party balloon and a real threat, but apparently it is not. At least not under the current admin.

duskwuff 6 hours ago | parent [-]

America's war on balloons has been ongoing for some time:

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/18/1158048921/pico-balloon-k9yo

fph 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"99 red balloons" starts playing in the background.