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> The more I dive into this space the more I think that developers will still be in heavy demand—just operating in a different level of abstraction most of the time. We will need to know our CS fundamentals, experience will still matter, juniors will still be needed. It’s just that a lot of time time the actual code being generated will come from our little helper buddies. But those things still need a human in the seat to drive them.

It’s disheartening that programmers are using this advanced, cutting-edge technology with such a backwards, old-fashioned approach.[1]

Code generation isn’t a higher level abstraction. It’s the same level but with automation.

See [1]. I’m open to LLMs or humans+LLMs creating new abstractions. Real abstractions that hide implementation details and don’t “leak”. Why isn’t this happening?

Truly “vibe coding” might also get the same job done. In the sense of: you only have to look at the generated code for reasons like how a C++ programmer looks at the assembly. Not to check if it is even correct. But because there are concerns beyond just the correctness like code gen size. (Do you care about compiler output size? Sometimes. So sometimes you have to look.)

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44163821