Truly. I don't understand why Tesla fans think camera/lidar fusion is unsolvable but camera/camera fusion is a non-issue.

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hamdingers 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Because they bought a Tesla with only cameras on it.

Admitting this would be admitting their Tesla will never be self driving.

	▲	baggachipz 8 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I bought mine with cameras and a radar, which they then deprecated and left an unused. Even though autopilot was better when it had radar. Then I realized that this thing would never be self-driving and that its CEO was throwing nazi salutes. Cut my losses and got rid of it. Gotta admit defeat sometimes.
	▲	xnx an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Add a tow hitch to Waymos and any car can be autonomous!

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wat10000 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do Tesla fans think that? I've seen plenty of Tesla fans say that lidar is unnecessary (which I tend to agree with), but never that lidar is actively detrimental as Musk says there.

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SoftTalker 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, humans have only their eyes. And most of them intentionally distract themselves while driving by listening to music, podcasts, playing with their phones, or eating.

	▲	nrclark an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I get your point about camera vs lidar. Humans do have other senses in play while driving though. We have touch/vibration (feeling the road surface texture), hearing, proprioception / acceleration sense, etc. These are all involved for me when I drive a car.
	▲	catigula 41 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		To be fair, humans are fairly poor drivers and generally can't be trusted to drive millions of miles safely.