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| ▲ | BeetleB an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Its really weird how you all are begging to be replaced by llms, you think if agentic workflows get good enough you're going to keep your job? Or not have your salary reduced by 50%? The computer industry (including SW) has been in the business of replacing jobs for decades - since the 70's. It's only fitting that SW engineers finally become the target. |
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| ▲ | timeattack an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I agree with you and have similar thoughts (maybe, unfortunately for me). I personally know people who outsource not just their work, but also their life to LLMs, and reading their exciting comments makes me feel a mix of cringe, fomo and dread. But what is the engame for me and you likes, when we finally would be evicted from our own craft? Stash money while we still can, watching 'world crash and burn', and then go and try to ascend in some other, not yet automated craft? |
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| ▲ | dakolli 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, that's a good question that I can't stop thinking about. I don't really enjoy much else other than building software, its genuinely my favorite thing to do. Maybe there will be a world where we aren't completely replaced, we have handmade clothes still after all that are highly coveted. I just worry its going to uproot more than just software engineering, theoretically it shouldn't be hard to replace all low hanging fruit in the realm of anything that deals with computer I/O. Previous generations of automation have created new opportunities for humans, but this seems mostly just as a means of replacement. The advent of mass transportation/vehicles created machines who needed mechanics (and eventually software), I don't see that happening in this new paradigm. I don't think that's going to make society very pleasant if everyone's fighting over the few remaining ways to make livelihood. People need to work to eat. I certainly don't see the capitalist class giving everyone UBI and letting us garden or paint for the rest of our lives. I worry we're likely going to end up in trenches or purged through some other means. |
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| ▲ | sgillen 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think a lot of people assume they will become highly paid Agent orchestrators or some such. I don't think anyone really knows where things are heading. |
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| ▲ | ergonaught 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Most folks don't seem to think that far down the line, or they haven't caught on to the reality that the people who actually make decisions will make the obvious kind of decisions (ex: fire the humans, cut the pay, etc) that they already make. |
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| ▲ | blibble 25 minutes ago | parent [-] | | they think they're going to be the person making that decision but forgot there's likely someone above them making exactly the same one about them |
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| ▲ | newswasboring an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You don't hate AI, you hate capitalism. All the problems you have listed are not AI issues, its this crappy system where efficiency gains always end up with the capital owners. |
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| ▲ | OtomotO 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Or we just end capitalism. French revolution style. shrugs |
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| ▲ | dakolli 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Well I honestly think this is the solution. It's much harder to do French Revolution V2 though if they've used ML to perfect people's recommendation algorithms to psyop them into fighting wars on behalf of capitalists. I imagine llm job automation will make people so poor that they beg to fight in wars, and instead of turning that energy against he people who created the problem they'll be met with hours of psyops that direct that energy to Chinese people or whatever. We will see. | |
| ▲ | uxhoiuewfhhiu an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Let's start with you. |
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