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fcanesin 9 hours ago

The harness is the model "body", it's weight the cognition. Like in nature they develop together and the iteration of natural selection works at both.

If smaller labs (Zai, Moonshot, deepseek, mistral..) get together and embrace a harness, like opencode for example, as a consortium just by the power of "evolution across different environments" they might hit jackpot earlier than bigger labs.

TZubiri 9 hours ago | parent [-]

But they rely on distilling the output of american leader models. Which will probably train against their own harness.

Someone has to do the baseline training, development, and innovation. it can't be clones all the way down

robotresearcher 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why not? Humans are (very nearly) clones all the way down.

lillecarl 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Citation needed, SOTA labs surely has technical protection and legaleese against using them for training. It's been done in th past but what indicates this is still the case?

cyanydeez 3 hours ago | parent [-]

this didn't stop the millions of copyrighted works used to train the models.