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PlunderBunny 5 hours ago

Given the way current LLMs hallucinate, and given that Apple (presumably) won’t accept this behaviour in Siri, I’m skeptical that existing technology (or existing technology scaled up) can ever create the Siri Apple and its customers want.

Jgrubb 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'll settle for "gets voice to text right most of the time". Seriously, Apple is so far behind on the cheapest table stakes at this point I highly doubt their high standards is the issue.

PlunderBunny 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, but isn't the voice recognition (as opposed to voice comprehension) separate from the supposedly LLM powered bit of Siri? I want better voice comprehension too, but I don't think that moving to a LLM powered Siri will solve that.

FireBeyond 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh absolutely. The amount of times I have to pause, take a deep breathe and OVER-enunciate (still with mixed success) because my voice, pulse rise and my patience decreases with every absolute butchering (like not even "close but no cigar" but "how on earth did you come up with that?") Siri does to dictated text message in CarPlay...

rootusrootus 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I don’t even bother anymore. When it reads back the text message and asks if I want to send it I just laugh heartily and say yeah. Sometimes the recipient has to read it aloud and try to phonetically guess what the original words were.

meroes 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Literally what's the difference between that and Siri now.

Siri can't understand or pronounce very well.

A few weeks ago Siri via Car Play responded to a text and sent it without me saying a word or radio on, and with the setting where it asks first before sending enabled. It responding "Why?" to a serious text was seriously inconvenient in the moment. I watched it happen in disbelief.

PlunderBunny 3 hours ago | parent [-]

(Edit: Didn't see your last paragraph before writing the response below)

I think there is a distinction between Siri misunderstanding what was said (which you can see/hear), and Siri understanding what you said but hallucinating an answer. In both cases, you strictly have to check the result, but in the first case it's clear that you've been misunderstood.

vachina an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah. Apple don’t half ass things. This is why people take their products seriously.

FireBeyond 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't think that's at all a safe presumption, given that AI still happily hallucinates summaries of text messages/email that is contradictory to that actual content of the message.

PlunderBunny 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Unless I misunderstand your reply, I think we're agreeing.