> Has any of these outfits ever publicly stated they used Nvidia chips? As in the non-officially obtained 1s. No.

Uh yes? Deepseek explicitly said they used H800s [1]. Those were not banned btw, at the time. Then US banned them too. Then US was like 'uhh okay maybe you can have the H200', but then China said not interested.

[1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2412.19437

> Uh yes? Deepseek explicitly said they used H800s [1]. Those were not banned btw, at the time

Then they haven't. I said the non-officially obtained 1s that they can't / won't mention i.e. those Blackwells etc...