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Mashimo 5 hours ago

Wut? Was glm 4.7 not just a few weeks ago?

I wonder if I will be able to use it with my coding plan. Paid just 9 usd for 3 month.

alias_neo 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What's the use case for Zai/GLM? I'm currently on Claude Pro, and the Zai looks about 50% more expensive after the first 3 months and according to their chart GLM 4.7 is not quite as capable as Opus 4.5?

I'm looking to save on costs because I use it so infrequently, but PAYG seems like it'd cost me more in a single session per month than the monthly cost plan.

BeetleB 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you pay for the whole year, GLM4.7 is only $7/mo for the first year. And until a few days ago, they had a fantastic deal that ran for almost 2 months where it was less than $3/mo for the first year. I grabbed it, and have been using it exclusively for personal coding since. It's good enough for me.

The other claimed benefit is a higher quota of tokens.

Mashimo 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> What's the use case for Zai/GLM?

It's cheap :) It seems they stopped it now, but for the last 2 month you could buy the lite plan for a whole year for under 30 USD, while claude is ~19 USD per month. I bought 3 month for ~9 USD.

I use it for hobby projects. Casual coding with Open Code.

If price is not important Opus / Codex are just plain better.

_joel 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's avaiable in mine, I think I paid about the same

NitpickLawyer 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> It's avaiable in mine

Weird, mine (lite plan) says "Only supports GLM-4.7, GLM-4.6, GLM-4.5, and GLM-4.5-Air" and "Get same-tier model updates" ...

Mashimo 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It seems like nothing is updated yet, expect the chat. https://z.ai/subscribe

It all just mentions 4.7

Seems like time will tell.

Edit: They updated it:

> The Lite / Pro plan currently does not include GLM-5 quota (we will gradually expand the scope and strive to enable more users to experience and use GLM-5). If you call GLM-5 under the plan endpoints, an error will be returned. If you still wish to experience GLM-5 at this stage and are willing to pay according to the Pricing, you can call it through the General API endpoint (i.e., https://api.z.ai/api/paas/v4/chat/completions), with the deduction priority being [Platform Credits - Account Balance] in sequence.

AntonyGarand 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The documentation is not updated, but it works if you hardcode the model id to `GLM-5` within your tool

NitpickLawyer 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Cool, thanks. Did you try it out, how's the performance? I saw on openrouter that the stealth model was served at ~19t/s. Is it any better on their endpoints?

cmrdporcupine 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

GLM 4.7 Flash was just a few weeks ago. 4.7 fully I think was a ways further back early December?

ExpertAdvisor01 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Nope. Lite plan receives only same-tier model updates.

Havoc 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't see it as selectable my side either (opencode & max plan)

ExpertAdvisor01 2 hours ago | parent [-]

They updated it now

Havoc an hour ago | parent [-]

No luck here. Did you do anything specific to make it show / reauth or something?

ah nvm - found the guidance on how to change it