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reactordev 5 hours ago

Dude, Americans are getting kidnapped and murdered in Mexico all the time. The cartels don’t care your nationality.

If the administration strikes cartels first, they may find it egregious enough to do what they refused to do in the past…

I don’t rule out any options when it comes to murderous organizations.

*EDIT* This isn’t me saying don’t go to Mexico or that Mexico is unsafe either. Out of the tourists that visit from America, 0.001% see violence or are kidnapped or anything negative. If anything it would be petty theft near cruise ports and resort towns that would be the biggest culprit of crime for Americans.

infecto 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

“Dude”, murdering a us citizen in Mexico is different than murdering an entire bus of people on US soil.

You say it’s happening all the time but then say it’s .01%.

Looked it up myself, maybe 40 to 300 people annually. Hard to discern how many of those are pure tourism vs visiting family. I suspect you have a greater risk visiting family, especially if it’s a border town.

13.5mm US citizens visit d Mexico in 2024 so .00002% got kidnapped. I bet that number is even lower when you separate pure tourism vs dual nationals or similar going back home to visit.

The point is any action taken on US soil in a large capacity would be seen as an attack by any administration.

reactordev 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I never said “In the US” guy

matwood 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Of course things happen sometimes. But, the cartels typically do not want to mess with Americans, particularly in tourist areas, because that brings heat they don't want. It's literally bad for business.

_heimdall 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the GP was referring to buses on US soil rather than Americans on buses in Mexico.

reactordev 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Cartels only strike their own on US soil…

infecto 5 hours ago | parent [-]

You’re missing the point. Absolutely cartel violence impacts all types of people in the US and Mexico but large scale brutal violence that is usually saved for Mexico since unfortunately the Mexican federal government does not have control in most of the regions.

There is a huge difference between a one off gang killing in the US and someone taking a whole grey hound bus and burying the bodies in the desert.

reactordev 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Which is why I bring up their affinity for going after busses of people, because they have, in Mexico…

The world does not stop at the Us border.

jghn 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Dude, Americans are getting kidnapped and murdered in Mexico all the time

Dude, can you put some numbers with a citation behind that? Then we can extrapolate a risk ratio and see if it really merits the "all the time" claim.