So we agree, including that there is a difference.

bigbadfeline 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> So we agree, including that there is a difference.

No, that's a distinction without a difference. I mean, it doesn't matter in the slightest if at some point in time certain powers weren't abused, if they're being abused now the situation cannot be tolerated.

Arguing about how it's possible not to abuse the system is a waste of time at best and a diversion at worst.

	▲	mindslight 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I'm not arguing that it's possible to not abuse the system. I've recognized abuses for quite some time, regardless of which political team has been in power. The point is that we need to avoid normalizing our current situation by pointing to previous abuses.

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shevy-java 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But did you not disagree before? The "I am getting tired" statement kind of implies that.

	▲	mindslight 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Different commenter and different statement.