As a man who's never wanted kids, and is now getting to an age where it probably wouldn't be a good idea, those weren't really the big factors for me.

Having a kid is just an unfathomably large commitment. If you bring a kid into the world, I believe you're responsible for creating the conditions where that kid can grow into a healthy, well adjusted adult, and that's seemed like an increasingly impossible commitment for the past few decades.

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jpadkins 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It's not that hard. Sorry you missed out on a wonderful thing. You are not responsible for the world or its conditions. You just have to support the kid and be a good role model, that is 95% of the job.

	▲	bittercynic 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Don't be sorry, I got what I wanted, and am content with my life. We have to miss out one one thing to enjoy something else.
	▲	whatever1 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Is bringing a kid into slavery or a warzone ethical? To enjoy this life you need free will aka be provided with options. So there is definitely a lower bound of conditions that a parent should be able to satisfy.
	▲	malcolmgreaves 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		You're definitely responsible for the environment you bring a kid into. It doesn't matter what is going on in the world. You're the parent and ultimately you're responsible for the environment where you raise your children. You're responsible for having the right resources to raise them trauma-free. Did you...not realize this when you made kids?