| ▲ | seanmcdirmid 5 hours ago |
| We need young people to pay for old people retirement (economically speaking, someone has to be working when someone else is just eating). |
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| ▲ | mmastrac 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I really hope that automation and robotics will _finally_ allow us to invert the pyramid. |
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| ▲ | compounding_it 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Don't know about inverting the pyramid but we may get more pyramid schemes. Like Google and Oracle doing 100 year bonds for AI. | |
| ▲ | MyHonestOpinon 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think the solution is in adjusting our ways of life. Simpler living, smaller houses and more density, being able to walk and bike, shared common areas, increase health span, being able to live independently for longer, simpler hobbies, not needing so much stuff, etc. | |
| ▲ | dmm 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Much more likely is that conditions for elder care will continuously degrade until MAID becomes most people's choice. | | | |
| ▲ | nradov 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Despite the hype cycle around humanoid robots it's unlikely that they'll advance enough to be capable of replacing many human workers in nursing homes and assisted-living facilities within our lifetimes. Expect to see lots of really sad stories about elder abuse and neglect because as a society we simply won't have the resources to adequately care for them all. | | |
| ▲ | nemomarx 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I kinda expect nursing and people paid to give attention to the elderly to be the last job standing. very hard to replace or automate | | |
| ▲ | nradov 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Paid by whom? That's the problem. The people with money won't be willing to pay more taxes to fund workers to care for a growing indigent elderly population. It's already causing shortages today and will only get worse. |
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| ▲ | MyHonestOpinon 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Increasing health span would be a big step forward. More specifically old age dementia. | |
| ▲ | seanmcdirmid 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They don’t have to. If say robotaxis become widespread, you’ve freed up some portion of the labor market to do something else. They don’t have to automate all jobs, just some. | | |
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| ▲ | CodingJeebus 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It won't. The economic gains of automation will continue to be captured by the capital-owning class. It's simply too valuable to just give over to the masses. |
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| ▲ | torlok 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If the benefits of increased productivity went to the people instead of the 1%, you wouldn't need a growing population. |
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| ▲ | triceratops 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why? I understand that's how the system works now but does it have to? Productivity has never been higher. |
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| ▲ | Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why though? All those old people paid in all their lives so surely that is sitting in a vault somewhere waiting for them. |
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| ▲ | actionfromafar 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| We need young people to pay for the billionaire subsidies (economically speaking, someone has to accumulate all that profit and it's not going be us) |
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| ▲ | sandworm101 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| If they were only eating there would be no problem. But they want fancy vacations. They want houses. They need drugs. They need MRI machines. And they need these things for decades for minimal cost irrespective of ability to pay. And, when they do die, they expect to pass estates tax-free to thier children. Supporting the retired population is one thing, but the day may soon come when we revisit what it means to be retired. |
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| ▲ | supertrope 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | If you want to punch up try aiming higher than the upper-middle class. Other countries have MRIs and drugs as part of universal healthcare. | | |
| ▲ | bluGill 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Those other countries are still paying for those things somehow. (or they really have the alleged death panels critics talk about) You can shove the cost in different places, but somehow they still have to be paid. | |
| ▲ | sandworm101 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ya but those countries also do not enjoy private health insurance and for-profit care providers. The ability to purchase shares in both the hospital that is treating you and the company that authorizes your treatment is a uniquely american priviledge. | | |
| ▲ | triceratops 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > those countries also do not enjoy private health insurance and for-profit care providers I don't think anyone enjoys them per se. |
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