250k per year would make me reconfigure my internal right/wrong classifier real fast...

embedding-shape 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Really, that little? Don't feel even slightly embarrassed about your morals being so cheap? You'd hurt your neighbors and acquaintances for 20K a month?

Given you probably don't earn that today, say you got paid that now instead of whatever you earn, what would you spend that money on in reality?

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DHolzer 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would feel embarrassed, yes. But that's 5 times my current salary for a 'similar' position. I am not sure it'd be 5 times worse in terms of societal effect. And even if it were, I am not sure I would be 5 times as embarrassed, if we are considering a linear conversion rate.

What I am trying to say is that I am on your side - as of this moment it is incredibly unlikely that I would ever see this kind of money. That makes it an easy position to take in a online conversation. But I have seen decent people throw out morals for a 100th of what we are talking about.

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baq 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

if you're literally anywhere in the west other than bay area or NYC this is good to amazing money

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embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure, but what about all the other aspects of your life, those contributing more to your happiness? Corrupted people have money as their top goal in life, everyone else is trying to live a good life once they have enough, but there seemingly is no "enough" for quite a large part of the population, and in some places of the world this obsession seems worse than in others.

	▲	baq 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Hate the game, not the players. Somebody is supposed to be regulating this stuff. If you're in a poor city or country having a shot at such compensation would be life changing for the whole family, not just you and game-theoretically someone else will take that job anyway, for similar reasons, too.

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bayindirh 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's a shame, but don't feel sad. While not everybody is on your side, certainly you're not alone in this.

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soulofmischief 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I've left jobs paying that much over ethical concerns. My soul is not for sale, and neither should yours be.

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DHolzer 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

look, i dont want to work at any of those companies anyway. I am with you - i was trying to say that money can break most of us. I appreciate you being so farsighted by leaving such a position, but for many other people that would be unthinkable - And that does not make them monsters.

At this point I would be more worried about working for a US company, than which one exactly - (not totally serious of course, but also not entirely inaccurate)

	▲	soulofmischief an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I had no safety net and nearly became homeless after draining my savings helping a family member in the months after this happened. I come from a very poor background and have no family to rely on. I spent several years as a teenager and in my early 20s homeless, without parents or anyone to help me financially. I starved and was very ill. I say this to make it clear that I didn't make this decision free of consequences, and it was unthinkable at the time for many from better backgrounds than I. I have experienced worse conditions than most of my peers ever will and my soul is still not for sale. There is no excuse. Selling heroin on a street corner is more ethical than what is going on at Google and Meta.

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bayindirh 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> My soul is not for sale, ...

This makes two of us. Nice to see a similar-minded person. Cheers to you!