Another closed model dressed up as "coming soon" open source. The pattern is obvious: generate hype with a polished demo, lock the weights, then quietly move on. Real open source doesn't need a press release countdown.

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vunderba 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's not what they did with Qwen-Image v1 - they announced it and it was available via API, but then they released the weights a few weeks after with an Apache 2.0 license. Let's at least give them the benefit of the doubt here.

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kkzz99 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Good that we have the arbitrator of what "real open source" is and isn't over here.

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yellowapple 4 hours ago | parent [-]

“Open source” is indeed an objective standard with actual criteria, and not just vibes.

Luckily, it seems previous Qwen models did get open-sourced in the actual sense, so this one probably will be, too.

	▲	kkzz99 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Its one NGO trying to dictate what "open source" is and btw. according to that definition, Qwen isn't open source.

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yorwba 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Where do you see a press release countdown? Alibaba consistently doesn't release weights for their biggest models, but they also don't pretend that they do.

	▲	singularfutur 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		fair enough, I read too quickly the article.