| ▲ | throwawayk7h 11 hours ago |
| No message history while not logged in. |
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| ▲ | Firehawke 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| IRCv3 (and many clients are supporting fair chunks of IRCv3's feature set) supports offline state and message history. |
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| ▲ | ok123456 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Liability |
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| ▲ | simianparrot 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| That's a feature |
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| ▲ | Mashimo 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I would love to know why it's considered a feature for you. I remember messing with bouncers and reading the backlog from a 3rd party page. Bots that would ping other members when they come online. It was cumbersome. | | |
| ▲ | simianparrot 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Because I prefer online conversations to work like IRL ones: Ephemeral. Sure each individual might keep their own log if they want but the server itself doesn’t and setting aside all the issues with modern datasets being used for training all sorts of algorithms, just the concept of stepping into a digital room without all the baggage of the last twenty hours of conversation is _mentally refreshing_. It also changes people’s behaviour for the better IME. | |
| ▲ | dokyun 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Saving logs is gross, chats should be ephemeral. In any case there's HistServ and IRCv3 /chathistory nowadays, so if you really want it you can have it. That all the minute garbage everyone posts is preserved forever in an unfiltered state I think is a root cause of the mental degradation that results from using Discord: kids don't have anywhere to 'post into the void' anymore. Preserving past events and relationships through oral history as opposed to a big monolithic search engine entails a far more human element to IRC. | | |
| ▲ | Mashimo 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | But on IRC you had your own log, and sometimes the server made the full logs public. It was just cumbersome to access. What I said and you said in my presets was still logged. It's a muddy middle ground where neither you are I are satisfied. Far from perfect. | |
| ▲ | Gareth321 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I wanted to disagree but I really miss IRC internet. Saving everything we ever said online was a mistake. We need to focus on ephemeral chat making a comeback. | | | |
| ▲ | lanfeust6 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Saving logs has been essential for work, in the past, because we were always to write real documentation when necessary. Mind you, this was local to our machine. |
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| ▲ | Sohcahtoa82 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | To a modern audience, it's definitely not. |
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