Recently? They've been shipping absolute trash for 15 years, and still haven't reached the bottom apparently.

.NET is actually, unironically good. But yes, this is one of few exceptions, unfortunately.

	▲	jlarocco 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I have mixed feelings about .Net. I think C# and .Net are objectively better to use than Java or C++. But the tooling and documentation is kind of a mess. Do you build with the "dotnet" command, or the "msbuild" command? When should you prefer "nuget restore" over "dotnet restore"? Should you put "<RestorePackagesConfig>true</RestorePackagesConfig>" in the .csproj instead? What's the difference between a reference and using Nuget to install a package? What's the difference between "Framework" and "Core"? Why, in 2026, do I still need to tell it not to prefer 32-bit binaries? It's getting better, but there's still 20 years of documentation, how-to articles, StackOverflow Q&A, blogs, and books telling you to do old, broken, and out of date stuff, and finding good information about the specific version you're using can be difficult. Admittedly, my perspective is skewed because I had never used C# and .Net before jumping in to a large .Net Framework project with hundreds of sub-projects developed over 15-20 years.

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reppap 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Azure keeps randomly breaking our resources without any service health notifications or heads up, it's very fun living in microsofts world.

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mrweasel 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Thinking back, you're probably correct, but it seems like they where actively trying to create something good back then. That might just be me only seeing the good parts, with .Net and SQLServer. Azure was never good, and we've know why for over a decade, their working conditions suck and people don't stay long, resulting things being held together by duct tape.

I do think some things in Microsoft ecosystem are salvageable, they just aren't trendy. The Windows kernel can still work, .Net and their C++ runtime, Win32 / Winforms, ActiveDirectory, Exchange (on-prem) and Office are all still fixable and will last Microsoft a long time. It's just boring, and Microsoft apparently won't do it, because: No subscription.

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my_throwaway23 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

To be fair, Windows 7 was quite good in my opinion.

Wait, what year is it?

	▲	ReptileMan 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		windows 2000 server and windows 2003 server were their last great desktop OSs