It should also be noted that most companies that make high quality (last decades) low volume goods go out of business; people vote with their dollars and dont want the capex.

Put another way, who here wants a car that costs more than their house? Or shoes that cost 2000$?

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doctorwho42 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Or, wealth inequality has gotten so out of hand that people are forced to buy the cheaper products.

It's the age old paradigm of buying a pair of shoes/boots, the poor man keeps buying $20 shoes/boots that wear out in a year or two. The wealthy man looks perplexed and states, "this is why they are poor, they don't understand investing in a quality pair of shoes/boots... For a measly $100 they could buy a pair of shoes/boots that would last them 10+ years". But what is always overlooked, is that the poor man doesn't have the flexibility of spending to afford to invest better quality purchases, because the money needs to be applied to other problems in their lives.

I would argue that this is one contributing factor, outside of companies just chasing the lowest quality/cost, that contributes to crappier stuff.

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collingreen 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is a fun "boots theory" bit from Terry Pratchets discworld. I don't know where it started but discworld is where I first read it described this way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory

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WalterBright 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> wealth inequality has gotten so out of hand that people are forced to buy the cheaper products.

Other people having more money does not result in higher prices for the rest, i.e. it does not cause inflation.

For example, when I was a boy steak was a rare luxury. Today, a steak dinner costs less than a TV dinner or a bag of Doritos.

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auggierose 4 hours ago | parent [-]

That can't be a very good steak.

	▲	WalterBright 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You're right, it's not a top cut. Still far better than a TV dinner.

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shimman 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This might be true once in the past but even the "quality" brands are garbage today. It's all being made from the same factories with the same materials, with the same business magnates forcing worse quality at higher costs.

	▲	acdha 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Some brands have definitely devalued themselves but it’s definitely not “same factories with the same materials”. If I buy a pair of jeans at Walmart and Costco, the latter ones will last years longer.

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93po 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

idk if this is useful info but at least in my case i tend towards cheaper items because

1. i dont want to worry about them getting damaged or lost or stolen

2. my preferences will likely change in a couple years

3. i may not want the item as much as i think i do

i've owned a very expensive watch (many thousands of dollars) and i find myself almost never wearing it, both bc the style isnt exactly what im into these days, but i also worry about banging it on anything or the smallest scratches. it's nice to wear a cheaper watch (only a few hundred dollars in value) and just sort of not care about it.

i've had my handful of "buy it for life" purchases and i'm struggling to think of literally any item like that i've purchased that i still use

	▲	owlstuffing 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yep, and... 4. the quality gap has closed considerably e.g., the function and durability of your $8k watch and a $300 watch are effectively imperceptible The gap is closing from both ends (cheap manufacturing, access to tech, etc.)

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gosub100 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"It's expensive af to be poor" - unknown source

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