| ▲ | gpderetta 10 hours ago | |||||||||||||
It doesn't really make much sense to compare per-cycle performance across microarchitectures as there are multiple valid trade-offs. Of course Apple did pick a very good sweet spot favoring a wide core as opposed to a speed daemon more than the competition. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | llm_nerd 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||
I don't get your first line. When people talk about Apple's core speeds they're not talking about cycles per instruction or something, they're talking about single-thread performance on a benchmark like Geekbench. Geekbench runs various real-world code and it's the gross throughput that is measured, and it's there that Apple cores shine. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ajross 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||
> It doesn't really make much sense to compare per-cycle performance across microarchitectures as there are multiple valid trade-offs. That's true in principle, but IMHO a little too evasive. In point of fact Apple 100% won this round. Their wider architecture is actually faster than the competition in an absolute sense even at the deployed clock rates. There's really no significant market where you'd want to use anything different for CPU compute anywhere. Datacenters would absolutely buy M5 racks if they were offered. M5 efficiency cores are better than Intel's or Zen 5c every time they're measured too. Just about the only spaces where Apple is behind[1] are die size and packaging: their cores take a little more area per benchmark point, and they're still shipping big single dies. And they finance both of those shortcomings with much higher per-part margins. Intel and AMD have moved hard into tiled architectures and it seems to be working out for them. I'd expect Apple to do the same soon. [1] Well, except the big elephant in the room that "CPU Performance Doesn't Matter Much Anymore". Consumer CPUs are fast enough and have been for years now, and the stuff that feels slow is on the GPU or the cloud these days. Apple's in critical danger of being commoditized out of its market space, but then that's true of every premium vendor throughout history. | ||||||||||||||
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