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hereme888 12 hours ago

"terrified".... overused word. As a man I literally can't relate. I get terrified when I see a shark next to me in the ocean. I get impatient when code is hard to debug.

KurSix 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We're pretty good at naming fear when it has a physical trigger. We're much worse at naming the unease that comes from watching something you care about get quietly hollowed out over time. That doesn't make it melodrama, just a different category of discomfort.

relaxing 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Step 1: Start looking beyond your code, as the stuff beyond your code is looking at you.

mystraline 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Its existential dread, of being useless and of not being able to thrive.

Its being compared to that of a slop machine, and billionaires claiming that its better than you are in all ways.

Its having integrity in your work, but the LLM slop-machines can lie and go "You're actually right (tells more lies)".

It all comes down to that LLMs serve to 'fix' the trillion dollar problem: peoples wages. Especially those engineers, developers, medical, and more.

hereme888 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I hear you, especially as a man, because we're attuned at looking for trouble in the horizon. AI is not some transition from horses to cars, which just meant selling the horse, buying a car, and continue your transport business. It's intelligence that may be able to take over all aspects of our current professional training, thus potentially threatening our livelihoods.

mystraline 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Thats the underlying dread.

The base capitalist premise is if you work, you'll have resources to survive and thrive. The flip-side is that if you cannot or refuse to work, you will starve, be destitute, homeless, without medical care, live under a bridge, and die hopeless.

And societal failings in a capitalist system are always reflected towards the individual no matter what.

Bad monetary policy? Should have saved. Businesses buy state laws to worsen worker laws? Get a better job. Got sick and medical lost your job? Too bad, go die, I guess?

Its never a systemic thing we can identify and fix. But its always always reflected as a personal failing.

Theres a top comment on this article that LLMs are a perfect parieto machine. 80% good, 20% utter shit and lies. That seems to track pretty well with what I'm seeing. If thats generally being accepted, I have to ask if my (and all others professional labor) if we're worth our wages for that 20%. And the question isnt being asked of us, but about us in HR and C levels.

I'm already seeing "make do with what less labor you already have and hope AI helps". I support a national level thing (all 50 states). Used to be 3 engineers for backend. Now its just me. I'm already seeing the stark negative effects, overworking, sloperating as a necessity (no DBA), and hope and prayer stuff doesnt go down.

And combined with the fact we're seeing worse hiring and layoffs since the Great Recession... Something's gotta change.

xandrius 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I wonder how people like you would have fared even just 100y ago, if typing on a keyboard with your own fingers is so foundational to your identity.

SkyeCA 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My job, a place I spend 1/3 of my days is a core part of my identity. It's also how I manage to feed myself.

direwolf20 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ask a horse buggy driver and find out.

mystraline 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"People like (me)".. And what are me and people like me like?

How's about you say what you're comparing me and people like me to.

In my experience, people who use terms like "You people" are just using that as a placeholder for racism, sexism, or ableism. Which is it in your case?

And 100 years ago, when industry took over something, the new thing still needed people. But thats not a hard economic law - thats just what happened before. There is no guarantee of that observation to still hold true.